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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 8:35:10 GMT -5
I do believe that the Death Penalty is a deterrent. It deters one criminal at a time.
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Post by sclcookie on Jul 20, 2005 8:36:17 GMT -5
You're going to see this quote twice: Does the process provide the victim's family the "closure" so often mentioned? I have no way of knowing. But I do know this: Those who have taken part in or witnessed a legal execution will leave with an understanding of how fragile life is. A new set of victims is created among the family members of the condemned who watch. I wondered most about the mothers who saw their sons being put to death. Some would just wail out crying. It's a sound you'll never hear any place else, an awful sound that sticks with you. By JIM WILLETT source: www.tcadp.org/insiders.html
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 8:47:37 GMT -5
Then why did he kill someone...Answer me that. If you are in a conspiracy, you have murdered even if you did not pull the trigger. That is why people that hire a hitman get the book thrown at them or should...
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Post by janet on Jul 20, 2005 8:48:28 GMT -5
Mike, are you advocating the return of public executions?
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 8:49:16 GMT -5
Yes, I am.
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 9:00:57 GMT -5
Have they killed anyone yet? Do they get good grades in school, help around the house, are polite to family, friends, and strangers? Do they give up seats to older people, have proper table manners, go to church, are respectful, kind and decent? If so, then you are doing a good job of raising your kids...
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Post by sclcookie on Jul 20, 2005 9:11:14 GMT -5
Then why did he kill someone...Answer me that. If you are in a conspiracy, you have murdered even if you did not pull the trigger. That is why people that hire a hitman get the book thrown at them or should... Mike, do you think it's justice for someone to be executed for something that they didn't do just because they did something else that they should be executed for?
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 9:19:20 GMT -5
Yes...That is what a conspiracy is.
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Post by sclcookie on Jul 20, 2005 9:24:39 GMT -5
Mike, hypothetically, (being that you believe Rich was the actual shooter), suppose Rich wasn't the shooter, which he was executed, do you still think he should be executed for that crime.
Or do you think he should have had a new trial on the robbery which cause the death of Nick.
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Post by janet on Jul 20, 2005 9:25:31 GMT -5
Most murders are crimes of passion to a person known to the victim. There are few cases of hired assassins. Usually, it's a case of being with the wrong person, at the wrong place, at the wrong time. There is no intent on the part of an individual to committ murder. That's why felony murder should not exist.
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 9:26:20 GMT -5
Yes. He should be executed and was. No new trial.
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Post by sclcookie on Jul 20, 2005 9:26:43 GMT -5
Mike, your not getting it. Rich was executed for the wrong thing. He should have gotten a new trial for the correct offense. He wasn't executed for being a part of the robbery in which Nick was executed, he was executed for shooting Nick. He was executed for a crime he did not commit....a totally different charge.
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 9:29:10 GMT -5
Tell that to the store clerk trying to feed her family...Tell that to the mom whose child was shot playing in the front yard of the house... Tell that to the person whose home was broken into and a person waiting there to kill and rob her...Like Robert Shields, for example...
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Post by mikebook on Jul 20, 2005 9:30:45 GMT -5
Richard was in a conspriacy...Do you not understand??? That is a group of people planning a crime. It does not matter who did the killing...They were all guilty. Richard was the one who chose to fight it in court and lost. 40 years is a long time but you are alive. You can appeal and maybe get out sooner. The other 2 guys at least had the courage to say they did it...
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Post by sclcookie on Jul 20, 2005 9:41:09 GMT -5
Yes. He should be executed and was. No new trial. Right there is where you said it.
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