Post by spearmint on Dec 5, 2005 17:06:45 GMT -5
An argument which opponents of capital punishment must at least partially concede if they reject the "Deterrence Argument" is the "Incapatation Argument". This is the viewpoint that the worst of the murderers cannot be deterred from murdering again. There have been numerous murders committed by murders serving a "LWOP sentence" and their viewpoint when they murder again is summed up with the phrase: "So, then give me another life sentence! ;D"
There have also been cases of murderers on "Death Row" being pardoned and eventually released only to murder again outside of prison. I site the cases of kenneth mcduff and darryl kemp, only to name two.
www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm401697.html www.cnn.com/US/9811/17/texas.execution/
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Now brace yourselves my dear anti friends because this repost will sting a bit. It is not meant as an insult, but rather a confronting challenge and a "wake up call".
tinyurl.com/bc6g8 Repost Quote:
Apr 19, 2004, 11:40am, Doc wrote:
What do the following names all have in common?
Sarafia Parker
Brenda Thompson
Regenia Moore
Colleen Reed
Valencia Joshua
Melissa Northrup
The answer is they are all dead, and the anti's killed them. So while the anti's like to cry and shout about the remote possibility that an innocent person may be executed they seem not to care, when as a result of their actions, a murderer kills again, and again. These people were all victims of McDuff in Texas, had he been executed like he should have been the first time around they would still be alive today. When we hear them say that they are not opposed to LWOP it is hard to trust them, especially with the blood of so many innocent people on their hands.
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I posted at the end of Doc's hard hitting thread today the following:
We are all responsible for our actions and whatever consequences they may have for the rest of humanity. This is a responsible standpoint and position that most antis absolutely refuse to fully accept. Yes, even well meant actions and initiatives, which lead to the loss of innocent lives, are nevertheless actions which kill. The anti's attempt to blame the judical system for anything which may go wrong as far as the future incarceration of the murderer is concerned is simply a Utopian if not hypocritical attempt to wash themselves of all blame. The world is not perfect, despite the anti's expectation that it should be and many of these death row murderers will murder again, if the ANTI lobby helps them escape the death penalty.
To Doc's list of ANTI murder victims i wish to add:
Armida Wiltsey
forums.hollandsentinel.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000016;p=2#000018 Quote:
Beneficiary of Rose Bird Court To Face New Murder Charges
Prosecutors have filed murder charges against Darryl Kemp, a 67-year-old Texas prison inmate for the 1978 murder of a 40-year-old Lafayette mother. Armida Wiltsey went for a jog around the Lafayette Reservoir on Nov. 14, 1978. Deputies found her body that night a short distance from the jogging trail. She had been raped and strangled to death.
There were a few witness descriptions, but no real leads. Kemp came under suspicion when he was arrested two weeks after Wiltsey’s murder for prowling, peeping into windows. His girlfriend gave him an alibi, though, and he was released after sheriff’s deputies took hair samples.
At the time of Armida Wiltsey’s murder, Kemp was on parole. He had been convicted in Los Angeles County in 1960 for raping and murdering Majorie Hipperson on June 10, 1957. Arrested in 1959 for another rape, police matched his handprint to a partial print found at the scene of Hipperson’s murder. Kemp was convicted in these two cases and sent to death row. His sentence was commuted to life when the infamous Rose Bird Court declared the death penalty unconstitutional. Wiltsey was murdered less than four months after Kemp was paroled and one week after California voters reinstated the death penalty.
The case was reopened in 2000 as a part of the sheriff’s department’s review of unsolved cases. DNA technology linked evidence saved from under Wiltsey's fingernails with Kemp who is serving a life sentence in Texas for an aggravated rape committed in 1983. In between active cases, the crime lab had ordered a comparison of Kemp's 1978 hair sample with the Wiltsey evidence, according to court records. It matched, but the hair had degraded over the years. So lab officials asked for a new blood sample and a judge issued a court order for blood to be taken from Kemp at the Texas prison.
Kemp, who has been out of custody for only eight of the 49 years since he turned 18, is suspected in several other sexual assaults in Texas, according to court documents. Kemp will become eligible for parole on November 7 but will remain in custody even if paroled because a Contra Costa judge has issued a new no-bail warrant for him.
The District Attorney's Office will begin extradition proceedings to bring Kemp to Contra Costa County for trial, where he could face the death penalty once again.
Source: www.doristate.com
www.aberdeennews.com/mld/mcherald/news/state/6938750.htm
www.policeone.com/policeone/frontend/parser.cfm?object=News&operation=full_news&id=69658
tinyurl.com/8fzqz
There have also been cases of murderers on "Death Row" being pardoned and eventually released only to murder again outside of prison. I site the cases of kenneth mcduff and darryl kemp, only to name two.
www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm401697.html www.cnn.com/US/9811/17/texas.execution/
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Now brace yourselves my dear anti friends because this repost will sting a bit. It is not meant as an insult, but rather a confronting challenge and a "wake up call".
tinyurl.com/bc6g8 Repost Quote:
Apr 19, 2004, 11:40am, Doc wrote:
What do the following names all have in common?
Sarafia Parker
Brenda Thompson
Regenia Moore
Colleen Reed
Valencia Joshua
Melissa Northrup
The answer is they are all dead, and the anti's killed them. So while the anti's like to cry and shout about the remote possibility that an innocent person may be executed they seem not to care, when as a result of their actions, a murderer kills again, and again. These people were all victims of McDuff in Texas, had he been executed like he should have been the first time around they would still be alive today. When we hear them say that they are not opposed to LWOP it is hard to trust them, especially with the blood of so many innocent people on their hands.
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I posted at the end of Doc's hard hitting thread today the following:
We are all responsible for our actions and whatever consequences they may have for the rest of humanity. This is a responsible standpoint and position that most antis absolutely refuse to fully accept. Yes, even well meant actions and initiatives, which lead to the loss of innocent lives, are nevertheless actions which kill. The anti's attempt to blame the judical system for anything which may go wrong as far as the future incarceration of the murderer is concerned is simply a Utopian if not hypocritical attempt to wash themselves of all blame. The world is not perfect, despite the anti's expectation that it should be and many of these death row murderers will murder again, if the ANTI lobby helps them escape the death penalty.
To Doc's list of ANTI murder victims i wish to add:
Armida Wiltsey
forums.hollandsentinel.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000016;p=2#000018 Quote:
Beneficiary of Rose Bird Court To Face New Murder Charges
Prosecutors have filed murder charges against Darryl Kemp, a 67-year-old Texas prison inmate for the 1978 murder of a 40-year-old Lafayette mother. Armida Wiltsey went for a jog around the Lafayette Reservoir on Nov. 14, 1978. Deputies found her body that night a short distance from the jogging trail. She had been raped and strangled to death.
There were a few witness descriptions, but no real leads. Kemp came under suspicion when he was arrested two weeks after Wiltsey’s murder for prowling, peeping into windows. His girlfriend gave him an alibi, though, and he was released after sheriff’s deputies took hair samples.
At the time of Armida Wiltsey’s murder, Kemp was on parole. He had been convicted in Los Angeles County in 1960 for raping and murdering Majorie Hipperson on June 10, 1957. Arrested in 1959 for another rape, police matched his handprint to a partial print found at the scene of Hipperson’s murder. Kemp was convicted in these two cases and sent to death row. His sentence was commuted to life when the infamous Rose Bird Court declared the death penalty unconstitutional. Wiltsey was murdered less than four months after Kemp was paroled and one week after California voters reinstated the death penalty.
The case was reopened in 2000 as a part of the sheriff’s department’s review of unsolved cases. DNA technology linked evidence saved from under Wiltsey's fingernails with Kemp who is serving a life sentence in Texas for an aggravated rape committed in 1983. In between active cases, the crime lab had ordered a comparison of Kemp's 1978 hair sample with the Wiltsey evidence, according to court records. It matched, but the hair had degraded over the years. So lab officials asked for a new blood sample and a judge issued a court order for blood to be taken from Kemp at the Texas prison.
Kemp, who has been out of custody for only eight of the 49 years since he turned 18, is suspected in several other sexual assaults in Texas, according to court documents. Kemp will become eligible for parole on November 7 but will remain in custody even if paroled because a Contra Costa judge has issued a new no-bail warrant for him.
The District Attorney's Office will begin extradition proceedings to bring Kemp to Contra Costa County for trial, where he could face the death penalty once again.
Source: www.doristate.com
www.aberdeennews.com/mld/mcherald/news/state/6938750.htm
www.policeone.com/policeone/frontend/parser.cfm?object=News&operation=full_news&id=69658
tinyurl.com/8fzqz