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Post by sclcookie on Aug 28, 2005 15:11:05 GMT -5
I believe Wyld is pro and believes Scott is guilty. So far Wyld has been respectful also.
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Post by wyldflowers on Aug 28, 2005 15:24:39 GMT -5
Dearest sclcookie,
I would like to think that i form my own opinions about ppl, i don't base what i feel on what a tainted Media would like all to believe.
Like most ppl i base how i feel on my own set of moral standards. Each individual should be address accordingly, rather then on an average scale of judgment.
To label me "Pro" in my opinion is wrong, since i would like to believe that there is good in everyone. Not everyone shows their good, others live it daily and it shines through within them.
My post wasn't to condemn Scott Peterson, for that is not my place. My point was everyone represents them self in life, you can either tell the truth, or not. How you present yourself is what you will have to answer for.
Pro (or) Con... everyone has the right to express their opinions without name calling. In an adult forum i would think it can be done. Agree or Disagree.... We all have choices in life!
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 28, 2005 15:27:42 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I was assuming. I'm anti and believe Scott is guilty.
You know what they say about assume. You make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".
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Post by wyldflowers on Aug 28, 2005 15:30:45 GMT -5
sclcookie..... you said what you felt... i respect that. With deepest respect, Thank you  |
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Post by tikarose on Aug 28, 2005 15:46:18 GMT -5
Maggie's right! Until SP I was a confirmed DP advocate. My obsevation of the treatment of the SP case, and looking at all the exonerations in the past decade due to exculpatory and DNA evidence tells me we need to stop the killing. I was glad to find this site, and proud of you seeing you on Catherine Crier. You do a good thing. I DEFINATELY agree. A lot of good people have turned their attention to the DP as a result of being exposed to some of the issues through the Scott Peterson case.... We are thrilled to welcome all these new members here; as well as those who have visited who may not agree with our way of thinking; who will thus become exposed; themselves; to the reality of this thing that we are all here fighting... |
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Post by dio on Aug 28, 2005 15:49:48 GMT -5
To label me "Pro" in my opinion is wrong, since i would like to believe that there is good in everyone. Not everyone shows their good, others live it daily and it shines through within them.
Why would you find this wrong.Do you think all pros want is a cup of blood to wash their meals down with.MOST of the decent pros I have met overtime DO share your belief that their is good in everyone,criminals included.We merely advocate a form of punishment which some find objectionable.I know you mean no disrespect,nor do I.You present a very valid argument and are correct that we all have the right to agree or disagree.Many pros do not agree with me,and that is their choice as it is mine to be my usual disagreeable self....LOL
I also commend you on dodging media biases in forming your own opinions.I am no judge or lawyer,I was called once to serve on a Capitol offense jury but the defense had issue with my statement that based upon all I KNEW about the case and his client I could justifiably vote for no other sentence than death(iI was dismissed after 2 questions LOL).This was not based upon media,it was based upon knowledge.I also have a former friend in jail awaiting his trial for murder,and despite the media coverage I KNOW he is guilty.The media tells you only the opinion of the reporter and the owners of the medium,they do not often present fair coverage.
Pro or anti it matters not you seem to be a good person with their head on proper.I look forward to future discussion with you.
dio
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Post by mhdubuha on Aug 28, 2005 16:05:06 GMT -5
This is much nicer. Thank you.
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Post by mhdubuha on Aug 28, 2005 16:34:34 GMT -5
I really hope that the supporters understand that I was not trying to put them down. I think I was just trying to express sadness at the situation. I guess what I meant was I don't personally believe he deserves the support of the CCADP, but now that I know that no one is left out and that some of you see the guilt in some verses the innocent in others, I can see why the CCADP can not possibly turn it's back on sp or anyone else for that matter. It would go against everything you are trying to do here. So while I think SP is guilty of the most horrible crime you could commit I understand why you are still fighting to keep him from being executed. I just wish people like you could have fought the same battle for Laci and her little boy. She didn't deserve to die like that.
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 28, 2005 16:44:52 GMT -5
I really hope that the supporters understand that I was not trying to put them down. I think I was just trying to express sadness at the situation. I guess what I meant was I don't personally believe he deserves the support of the CCADP, but now that I know that no one is left out and that some of you see the guilt in some verses the innocent in others, I can see why the CCADP can not possibly turn it's back on sp or anyone else for that matter. It would go against everything you are trying to do here. So while I think SP is guilty of the most horrible crime you could commit I understand why you are still fighting to keep him from being executed. I just wish people like you could have fought the same battle for Laci and her little boy. She didn't deserve to die like that. I pmed you about the victims area, however, I'll post it here also. We have a victims area if you would like to post Lacy and Conner sites/threads. My husband and I are anti DP activists for several reasons. We don't support murder, however, we don't support executions either. If all of us anti's didn't fight this dp, than who will? We can't just sit back execution after execution when it's something that we are so strongly against. Fighting for the "underdogs" isn't a popular thing, however, that's the choice we made. My husband went to prison with 6 of the DR inmates in Texas. That's just one of the many reasons we are activists and the is the initial reason we became activist. We were both anti long before however. Richard Cartwright is the reason we will ALWAYS be activists. I was Rich's voice. If you ever read his Uncensored from Texas Death Row articles, you will understand. |
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Post by dio on Aug 28, 2005 17:18:38 GMT -5
Good point Mh.It truly is sad that this nation worries so very little of the plight women face each day at the hands of those murderers(edited) who get their jollies by beating them senseless. Prison is too good for these murders (edited) IMO.I feel even more strongly towards those who abuse a helpless child.Any crime which leads to the physical harm of a child deserves nothing less than castration if ya ask me.But I do live in a modern society which denies the murderers(edited) their just reward,hence I support the DP for people like Petersen.
I do understand why Petersen gains the support here that seems to have confused you at first.Yes the DP is very appropriate for such men AND women,but it would tarnish the cause this boards founders support if they were biased in any way towards a particular inmate.I do not know the stance of very many here,but those which I do know are in no way advocating the continued freedom for such people.Most want them locked away for life with no hopes of release.I guess I advocate the same principle with the exception that I prefer their incarceration to end sooner than some would.
Never falter in your beliefs,regardless of how unpopular they may seem.You are not alone in these beliefs.
dio
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Post by wyldflowers on Aug 28, 2005 21:02:44 GMT -5
dio: Never falter in your beliefs, regardless of how unpopular they may seem. You are not alone in these beliefs.*smiles* Very well said dio. Any time anyone disagrees with either side will place any one of us in the unpopular seats. I have nothing to gain or lose in expressing my thoughts or opinions. All posts have their own set of value. I can disagree with anyone, and still respect the fact that "ALL" have equal right to their opinions, regardless if they agree or disagree with me.  I wont say if i think Scott is Guilty or not. But i do feel he had a fair trial.
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Post by mhdubuha on Aug 28, 2005 21:58:17 GMT -5
Dio,
I really appreciate you sticking up for me, for a while there I did think I was alone. Like I said before, I got pregnant right around the time that they discovered Laci and Conner's bodies, so I really have a difficult time with this case in particular. I was not for the DP for the longest time, but now I just think in some cases it is totally appropriate. I also see the need for the coalition b/c some of these inmates were convicted with incompetent public defenders for lawyers and that is not fair! Especially when it is compared to Scott Peterson who had the best attorney money could buy. He was convicted b/c he is guilty, if there was ANY evidence to the contrary I assure you Mark Garagos and his team would have found it and presented it in court.
~Mhdubuha
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Post by dio on Aug 28, 2005 22:48:06 GMT -5
Nah Mh your not alone,there are a few of us pros here.And in all fact most of the antis here are not looking to release the Petersens of the nation,they just don't want them executed.As long as we respect their opinions they return the favor.
Thank you Wylde....I have to be honest and say I date a poet so I am bombarded with touchy llines like that all the time....LOLOf coarse I also get bombed with lines like take out the bloody trash,Crikey are ya going to sleep all day etc etc....She might be a poet but she was a female first.......LMAO
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Post by CCADP on Aug 29, 2005 7:01:11 GMT -5
Mh - I had JUST found out I was pregnant in December 2002; a few weeks before Laci went missing. So I remember when it was in the news that she was missing.
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Post by wyldflowers on Aug 29, 2005 23:13:37 GMT -5
I looked up the word Credibility tonight.
Credibility: the quality of being believable or trustworthy.
Credibility is extremely important to people you value most. Without it what good is your word?
I'm new to this site, as Ive taken the time to read through a lot of the various threads. I see this word come up from time to time. The more i thought about it, the more interested i became.
What does Credibility mean to you? Is it important? How important is it to those around you?
Personally Credibility says who you are as an individual, without it people don't like you, or trust you. We establish Credibility in each relationship we make. You establish it with those you love, with those you work with, with companies that expect payment from you. Without it, who are you?
What Credibility did Scott Peterson have?
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