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Post by judywaits4u on Nov 24, 2005 3:36:17 GMT -5
Skyloom, There are many people in non Death Penalty countries who believe that the death penalty should be part of their legal system. The problem is exampled by the following, Countries who want to become part of the EU need to get rid of the death penalty The UN will bring sanctions against signatories of the 2nd optional protocol of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights if they want to bring back capital punishment And your point is? No country is forced to join the EU. It has been decided by the member states that we do not want CP practiced among our members. No country that has joined since this law came into force have had a problem with it. Turkey abolished CP in preparation of negotiations to join the EU, it is also slowly sorting out it human rights problems. No country was forced to sign up to the 2nd Optional Protocol. No country is forced to remain a signatory to this protocol, the USA joins and leaves Optional Protocols according to how it suits them today. Personally I would have been happier if the UN had outlawed CP period.
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Post by sdl on Nov 27, 2005 22:09:30 GMT -5
Brains...something most people in, let's say, TEXAS, are lacking... That seems like a pretty harsh comment. What evidence do you have that indicates that folks in Texas are lacking brains? There is a lot of evidence to the contrary. There are many colleges and universities in Texas, as well as a NASA facility. My former college roommate lives in Texas and he has two masters degrees from Stanford University. My sister moved from California to Texas and she took her brains with her when she moved. There are two nuclear power plants in Texas and it requires a lot of brains to keep four nuclear reactors operating. The headquarters of Region IV of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission is in Arlington Texas. Molly Ivins lives in Texas and many people think that she has brains. A friend of mine from Chicago moved down to the Region IV office, he also took his brains with him. Larry McMurtry, the great novelist, lives in Texas and he is clearly full of brains. I lived in Alaska for a year and spent four weeks in Granbury, Texas. The folks in Granbury seemed about as smart as the folk in Alaska. George W. Bush
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Post by sdl on Nov 27, 2005 22:13:57 GMT -5
If the UN did outlaw the death penalty, what would that mean to the U.S.? Doesn't a country have the right to enact and enforce it's own laws? And, assuming the UN did outlaw the DP, how would such a law be enforced, remembering that without the U.S. the UN would cease to exist pretty quickly? Knowing Bush, he'd pull the US out of the UN, and tell countries if they wanted to trade, that they better leave the UN as well.
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Post by johnny61 on Nov 27, 2005 23:11:02 GMT -5
posted by: Donnie
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You post some absolute gems don't you?
What's the "objective evidence"?
Poor ol' Uncle Sam.
The "attacks" by the UN were what exactly? Anything like the American attack on Iraq's sovereignty? Bombs dropped on American soil? American civilians killed?
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Post by johnny61 on Nov 27, 2005 23:50:17 GMT -5
So you're going by one IQ test that was taken when Bush was 22 years old?
I'd prefer to look at the war mongering lying two-faced hypocritical prick's record since then and go by that.
Hmm, you're either deliberately avoiding the point I was making or you're dumb, quite likely the latter considering your Texan background.
Don't whine about America having its precious sovereignty infringed upon by the UN when America are guilty of declaring a war of aggression against a sovereign nation themselves.
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Post by kathy on Nov 28, 2005 0:16:19 GMT -5
Oh Geeze, just when I thought I was going to hear about smart people......Up pops Georgie the Village Idiot. Why don't you ask the Mothers and Fathers of all the dead soldiers from Iraq how smart they think Georgie is? Ask the same question to the parents that now have a son or daughter that will now live their life missing one or more body parts. Jr is a cold blooded murderer. He needs to be locked up in a Texas cage on DR right along with the men he delights in killing. PS Big words really don't impress us.
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Post by sdl on Nov 28, 2005 0:32:33 GMT -5
When one sovereign nation attacks and occupies another sovereign nation, they should expect to suffer the consequences. Considering their past behavior, Iraq has been treated quite well. Vietnam Haiti Grenada Don't recall those countries sending troops to invade us...
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Post by sdl on Nov 28, 2005 0:47:05 GMT -5
Donnie said: It is beginning to appear that you are not only rude, but a purveyor of buncombe."
I respond: Spiro Agnew is dead, pal...
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Post by sdl on Nov 28, 2005 0:49:41 GMT -5
Vietnam Haiti Grenada Don't recall those countries sending troops to invade us... You left a couple off of your list; Germany and Japan. Apparently you think that we should wait for somebody to invade us before we do anything. nice non-answer. Japan ATTACKED us...Germany dclare war on us What did Vietnam, Haiti and Grenada do to us? Drooling at the bit for The Coke Snorting Chickenhawk to invade Venezuela next?
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Post by johnny61 on Nov 28, 2005 3:00:05 GMT -5
posted by: Donnie
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Iraq were going to invade America.
That's a new one.
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Post by sdl on Nov 28, 2005 4:03:14 GMT -5
Must be true..Donnie says so...
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Post by judywaits4u on Nov 28, 2005 5:28:08 GMT -5
I don't guess we'll ever do away with murders... they've been happening since Cain killed Abel... but I expect the numbers of murders go down significantly when we all realize that we can't kill someone every time we have a problem with them. Maybe my great grandchildren's generation will have that figured out. The concept that we can't kill someone every time we have a problem with them was figured out long ago. Are you really tring to assert that todday we kill sombody every time we have a problem with them? Being faced with a murderer (or worse) is far more serious then merely having a problem with someone. Yet we seldom kill even murderers. Actually, here in the US, the homicide rate has gone down significantly since the use of the DP was restored. Even the average pro-cp person knows that the murder rate has gone down much more in non-cp states than in cp states.
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Post by judywaits4u on Nov 28, 2005 5:29:27 GMT -5
Vietnam Haiti Grenada Don't recall those countries sending troops to invade us... You left a couple off of your list; Germany and Japan. Apparently you think that we should wait for somebody to invade us before we do anything. Let me teach you a little about US history, Japan attacked the USA at Pearl Harbour. I really wish that if the scum site were going to send their scouts over here, they would pick one that has an IQ. Sorry I forgot they do not have one.
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Post by skyloom on Nov 28, 2005 11:27:31 GMT -5
That seems like a pretty harsh comment. What evidence do you have that indicates that folks in Texas are lacking brains? Maybe it would be more accurate to say that Texans have never learned how to use the brains they were born with. Have you checked the stats on the Texas elementary and secondary education system? Texans are always so-o-o grateful for Mississippi, y'know, 'cause at least Mississippi consistently keeps Texas out of last place.
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Post by skyloom on Nov 28, 2005 11:35:59 GMT -5
If the UN did outlaw the death penalty, what would that mean to the U.S.? Doesn't a country have the right to enact and enforce it's own laws? Well, say a country enacts laws that laws that mandate sterilization after a woman has had one child? Does it have the right to enforce that law? You only think the U.N. would cease to exist without the U.S. But it won't happen, because the U.S. doesn't want to lose its veto power and it also knows that the rest of the world would be able to unite against U.S. imperialism and make it stick.
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