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Post by injector on Jun 21, 2005 17:16:20 GMT -5
I realize that this is impossible, but, if executing a murderer did bring back the victim, would you support the DP? I know that it does not work that way, but just pretend. Especially those who know/love a DR inmate. Would you allow him to be executed if his death would being back his victim(s)?
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Post by mikebook on Jun 21, 2005 17:21:03 GMT -5
I am not getting involved in this one...I am standing back...
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Post by ela on Jun 21, 2005 17:27:52 GMT -5
I don't know if I would support death penalty... I mean... I should choose between a life and another one.. and of course I would choose the life of the person that I know and that I love....if I had to choose between the life of someone I love ( DR Inmate) and the life of someone ( I am sorry) that I don't know... ( the victim... nothing personal... but in this yhipotetical question I know and love the inmate, not the victim), well, I would save the life to the person I love. nothing personal.. it's only an hypotethical person...
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 21, 2005 18:01:25 GMT -5
That's a hard one Injector. Killing someone to bring back the victim? That's a hard choice to make. Especially, knowing some on a personal level. I'd have to ask each inmate (those who have changed or grown) and let them decide. You'd probably find some that would give their lives in order to bring their victims back.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 21, 2005 19:47:06 GMT -5
This is a good question erick. But you will find that most will answer just like ela did. Because the victim is dead and gone all that is thought about is the killer. Look at it this way, the victim did not ask the be killed yet they are dead none the less. There are those that love them as well and would love nothing more than to have just one more day with them. So if it would bring them back if you put the inmate to death then I think it only right that that life be given to the victim as theres was stolen from them. Now cookie said she would ask the inmates, I am sure there may be a FEW that would do this, those I can respect. But I would think a lot more would say no as they themself do not want to give up what they took from an innocent person. Just my point of view.
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Post by jj on Jun 21, 2005 20:18:13 GMT -5
Let's see. do you realize that you would be asking me to give up my husbands life so his victim could come back?
An honest answer would be no. You are asking me to sacrifice my husband for the death penalty, of which I don't believe in. Is this selfish? Yeah, probably is. But I don't know many people who would be willing to give up someone they love (father, mother, brother, sister, child) for someone they don't even know.
I agree with Ela, it would have to be my husbands choice. I could not make it.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 21, 2005 20:33:55 GMT -5
Let's see. do you realize that you would be asking me to give up my husbands life so his victim could come back? An honest answer would be no. You are asking me to sacrifice my husband for the death penalty, of which I don't believe in. Is this selfish? Yeah, probably is. But I don't know many people who would be willing to give up someone they love (father, mother, brother, sister, child) for someone they don't even know. I agree with Ela, it would have to be my husbands choice. I could not make it. Thats the point of the question joy, you would have to give up someone you loved just like the victims family had to. They had people that loved them to and still do, they were not WILLING to give up the ones that they loved but they were taken from them all the same, in most case by people they did not even know as well. But I understand how it would be hard for you to make a choice like that.
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Post by injector on Jun 21, 2005 20:43:17 GMT -5
Let's see. do you realize that you would be asking me to give up my husbands life so his victim could come back? An honest answer would be no. You are asking me to sacrifice my husband for the death penalty, of which I don't believe in. Is this selfish? Yeah, probably is. But I don't know many people who would be willing to give up someone they love (father, mother, brother, sister, child) for someone they don't even know. I agree with Ela, it would have to be my husbands choice. I could not make it. Its not about sacrificing your husband for the DP. I just want to know if you would support the execution of your husband if it would bring back the person HE killed. The idea that it is HIS victim that could be brought back is the key point to my question. I know it is all hypothetical, but why would it be wrong to execute a killer if it would bring back the victim who he chose to kill?
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Post by jj on Jun 21, 2005 21:48:32 GMT -5
Let's see. do you realize that you would be asking me to give up my husbands life so his victim could come back? An honest answer would be no. You are asking me to sacrifice my husband for the death penalty, of which I don't believe in. Is this selfish? Yeah, probably is. But I don't know many people who would be willing to give up someone they love (father, mother, brother, sister, child) for someone they don't even know. I agree with Ela, it would have to be my husbands choice. I could not make it. Its not about sacrificing your husband for the DP. I just want to know if you would support the execution of your husband if it would bring back the person HE killed. The idea that it is HIS victim that could be brought back is the key point to my question. I know it is all hypothetical, but why would it be wrong to execute a killer if it would bring back the victim who he chose to kill? No, I would not support the execution of my husband for the death penalty, even if it would bring back the victim. I don't want to loose my husband. I need him in my life, he's my best friend, he gave me back my life and taught me how to trust again, how to live again. I'm only human, I want to loose my husband about as much as the victims families wanted to loose thier loved one. I wish I could say what you want to hear.... but I can't. I'm sorry
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Post by injector on Jun 21, 2005 22:05:31 GMT -5
Its not about sacrificing your husband for the DP. I just want to know if you would support the execution of your husband if it would bring back the person HE killed. The idea that it is HIS victim that could be brought back is the key point to my question. I know it is all hypothetical, but why would it be wrong to execute a killer if it would bring back the victim who he chose to kill? No, I would not support the execution of my husband for the death penalty, even if it would bring back the victim. I don't want to loose my husband. I need him in my life, he's my best friend, he gave me back my life and taught me how to trust again, how to live again. I'm only human, I want to loose my husband about as much as the victims families wanted to loose thier loved one. I wish I could say what you want to hear.... but I can't. I'm sorry All I wanted you to say is how you really feel, and you did that. You gave me a straight answer, and I appreicate it.
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Post by gill on Jun 22, 2005 4:13:02 GMT -5
I realize that this is impossible, but, if executing a murderer did bring back the victim, would you support the DP? I know that it does not work that way, but just pretend. Especially those who know/love a DR inmate. Would you allow him to be executed if his death would being back his victim(s)? No. It's not undone with cancer victims, or road accident victims or the millions who die from starvation and AIDS every day. So I wouldn't support it being undone with murder victims. Gill. x
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 22, 2005 4:56:52 GMT -5
I realize that this is impossible, but, if executing a murderer did bring back the victim, would you support the DP? I know that it does not work that way, but just pretend. Especially those who know/love a DR inmate. Would you allow him to be executed if his death would being back his victim(s)? No. Nature takes its course. Unfortunately murder is a part of nature, even in the animal world. Everyone dies when it's their time, even murder victims. God would not have it any other way. So no. What's done is done and should not be undone. It's not undone with cancer victims, or road accident victims or the millions who die from starvation and AIDS every day. So I wouldn't support it being undone with murder victims. Gill. x This is where I do not agree with you gill. God gave man free choice and the knowledge of right from wrong. He then stepped back and let man live there life. I am trying to put this as best I can. When a person takes an innocent life that was by choice, not by god making them do it. A natural death (i.e. not a death by murder) is something god may have had his hand in as he made that disease. So it would be that persons time to go. But to have your life taken from you by force is not. Now before you say something about the DP. God also told man to rule and punish as they see fit. Here is a web page that puts it better then I could ever do. www.av1611.org/jmelton/punish.html
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Post by freerob on Jun 22, 2005 5:01:29 GMT -5
no is my answer.
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Post by ela on Jun 22, 2005 6:04:30 GMT -5
Just to clear the point alittle better; the criterion I have answered to thi hpothetical question is: I have to decide if take the life of someone I love, and of someone I have never met in my life: My answer doesn't depend at all on what the inmate can or CAN NOT have done:it may sound strange, but it is possible to love someone who commited a crime; so the point is not what he / she has or has not done; the point is that I love that person and I would never let die someone I love. All of you would do the same if asked to choose between a life of someone you love and the life of someone you don't know. And, how Joy said,no way i would support the death penalty, even if it would brign one life back... I don't support death penalty for murderers.
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Post by jj on Jun 22, 2005 6:21:16 GMT -5
This is where I do not agree with you gill. God gave man free choice and the knowledge of right from wrong. He then stepped back and let man live there life. I am trying to put this as best I can. When a person takes an innocent life that was by choice, not by god making them do it. A natural death (i.e. not a death by murder) is something god may have had his hand in as he made that diseasel You only have this half right. Yes, God gave man free choice to choose right from wrong. But you forgot that there is another force out there fighting for wrong and that is Satan, evil. When people turn from God, it gives Satan free reign to move in and wreck havoc. Satan destroys anyway he can. Choose God, even those that are in prison/death row can change. God does do miracles. Ok..... my preaching is over ;D
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