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Post by CCADP on Jun 22, 2005 7:29:44 GMT -5
I would.
Even if I was friends with the person; if its a choice between the person who killed and their particular innocent victim living; I would have to choose the innocent victim of course. I think a lot of the prisoners would agree.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 22, 2005 7:35:13 GMT -5
I would. Even if I was friends with the person; if its a choice between the person who killed and their particular innocent victim living; I would have to choose the innocent victim of course. I think a lot of the prisoners would agree. Tracy I think that a honorable answer from you.
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Post by CCADP on Jun 22, 2005 7:37:39 GMT -5
thanks Shawni. But its just true
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Post by CCADP on Jun 22, 2005 7:39:54 GMT -5
I guess I should say I dont like the part of the question about 'executing' and i guess thats why others didn't answer like I did. If it said "if it was a choice between the killers life and the victims which..." more people would have thought about it and answered that way. We don't like the idea of executing tho so that disturbs people.... but if it was a choice; one or the other would live if we picked....most of us I believe will choose the innocent victim that did nothing.
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Post by injector on Jun 22, 2005 10:06:04 GMT -5
I guess I should say I dont like the part of the question about 'executing' and i guess thats why others didn't answer like I did. If it said "if it was a choice between the killers life and the victims which..." more people would have thought about it and answered that way. We don't like the idea of executing tho so that disturbs people.... but if it was a choice; one or the other would live if we picked....most of us I believe will choose the innocent victim that did nothing. Thank-you!!!! Good post!
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Post by Deb on Jun 22, 2005 12:08:27 GMT -5
Well, the original question did not specify only antis to answer, so my answer to the question would be yes.
Tracy, you continue to impress me. Your honesty and fairness is inspiring and refreshing.
I do agree with you that alot of DR inmates probably feel that if they could give their life to give back their victim(s), they would in a heartbeat.
I doubt though, that even if the question were rephrased as you stated it, that the people that answered here would change their answer, maybe I'm wrong on that, but regardless of how its phrased the end result would be the same. They have stated that they choose their loved one over the victim they don't know.
But, I would like to know if I'm wrong in that assumption, would anyone change their answer if the question was rephrased?
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Post by freerob on Jun 22, 2005 12:25:04 GMT -5
Well, the original question did not specify only antis to answer, so my answer to the question would be yes. Tracy, you continue to impress me. Your honesty and fairness is inspiring and refreshing. I do agree with you that alot of DR inmates probably feel that if they could give their life to give back their victim(s), they would in a heartbeat. I doubt though, that even if the question were rephrased as you stated it, that the people that answered here would change their answer, maybe I'm wrong on that, but regardless of how its phrased the end result would be the same. They have stated that they choose their loved one over the victim they don't know. But, I would like to know if I'm wrong in that assumption, would anyone change their answer if the question was rephrased? perhaps. If I'm 100% honest, it would depend entirely on my friend Rob and his views. I wouldn't want to answer for him. The question itself seemed like a trick question initially to 'try' and get Anti's to 'agree' with any form of DP. I for one will NEVER accept DP. SO outdated. However, if this scenario were possible, and my friend agreed, then perhaps I would change my position. But ONLY if HE was 100% for it. I'd miss the big guy but the victim's family also miss their beloved one too. Just my honest view. Miles
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Post by catskillz on Jun 22, 2005 13:44:50 GMT -5
First, hypothetical questions like this are a bit extreme imo! But to be honest, if it would be the case, i would agree. I am not against the dp because based on religious grounds (im non-), a piece of it is based on morality and all the rest is practical, rational and scientifical arguments. Sure i think killing is morally wrong, but if it would bring the victim back, i think it would be more morally wrong to not do it.. imho.. Will never happen though
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Post by gill on Jun 23, 2005 17:26:16 GMT -5
God didn't make cars. What about an accidental car crash? What about joyriders who run into a child not meaning to kill them, but do? This wouldn't be God's intention, but it would be manslaughter, not murder. In addition, if God wanted to save the victim, he would have done, just like if he wanted to save a person from disease he would have done. Some people recover from violent attacks, disease, car accidents, some people don't. For those people who don't, it's just their time. It's sad but it's nature. Life's a bitch. Gill
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Post by CCADP on Jun 24, 2005 8:10:26 GMT -5
thanks Deb ! What a NICE thing to say!
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Post by Deb on Jun 24, 2005 11:32:21 GMT -5
You're welcome Tracy, it true! ;D
But Gill, with that line of thinking...God didn't make the the electric chair, gas chamber, needles, or the lethal solutions either. If God does not save them from that, then are you saying it is their time to go?
Because, this is somewhat how I feel. I am of the belief of reincarnation, each life includes more lessons that we must learn. Karma plays into it as well. I believe that before being born into this life one of the choices made for our next life is how we will die, lessons we need to learn will affect myself and the people affected by my death in a certain way. Therefore, like you said your time is your time and if it is not, God will save you from that situation.
It's a hard thing to explain, so I hope I did make it understandable, a little.
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Post by catskillz on Jun 24, 2005 11:40:18 GMT -5
I took on the question from a moral viewpoint, when looking at it from a hyopothetical practical view, there would be way too many issues to name..
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Post by freerob on Jun 24, 2005 13:02:28 GMT -5
You're welcome Tracy, it true! ;D But Gill, with that line of thinking...God didn't make the the electric chair, gas chamber, needles, or the lethal solutions either. If God does not save them from that, then are you saying it is their time to go? Because, this is somewhat how I feel. I am of the belief of reincarnation, each life includes more lessons that we must learn. Karma plays into it as well. I believe that before being born into this life one of the choices made for our next life is how we will die, lessons we need to learn will affect myself and the people affected by my death in a certain way. Therefore, like you said your time is your time and if it is not, God will save you from that situation. It's a hard thing to explain, so I hope I did make it understandable, a little. Hi Deb To be honest I don't believe in reincarnation. I certainly wouldn't wanna come back to this world! urghhh!!! But if I DID, then I'd wanna come back as a pigeon, so I could sh*t on every bastard that ever sh*t on me!! ;D very interesting post tho!
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Post by catskillz on Jun 24, 2005 13:06:46 GMT -5
I'll be the cat with skillz!
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 24, 2005 19:38:35 GMT -5
I want to come back as a bald eagle in the USA. Protected by law, can fly and eats meat .
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