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Post by ssalways on Jan 13, 2008 5:22:04 GMT -5
TO ALL MEMBERS OF CCADP! There is no wonder killings and rapes and torture are so common. There is no fear of being held accountible.
(Offensive/disrespectful content deleted here) That is more than most people on this planet get!! 30,000 people will die today alone from starvation ... and we pay to feed, clothe, and educate our murderers and rapists while the victims get nothing.
How can you people look yourselves in the mirror every day knowing that you are writing to, supporting, praising, the evil ones who have killed Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Daughters, Sons, Aunts, Uncles in such horrible, despicable ways? Have you all ever once stopped and wondered what the daily lives are like for the families of those murdered by your "beloved thugs"? Do you care?
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jan 13, 2008 10:36:42 GMT -5
How can you people look yourselves in the mirror every day Pretty easily considering I didn't kill anyone.
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jan 13, 2008 13:51:25 GMT -5
TO ALL MEMBERS OF CCADP! There is no wonder killings and rapes and torture are so common. There is no fear of being held accountible. What about the judicial system? Look at some of the morons who are on juries? The other night I watched a movie based on a "true story" about a woman who married her very old wealthy husband only for his money. She was cheating on him with every guy in the city. He found out and told her he wanted a divorce and that he was taking her out of his will. Very shortly after that he died of causes unknown and when his daughter demanded an autopsy during the time his wife was trying to get him cremated, it was found that he died of a morphine over dose. The wife was charged with poisoning him, the case went to trial and guess what? The jury aquitted her! His daughters got nothing, not a penny out of his will, and his witch of a widow is living in the mansion his daughters grew up in today! Meanwhile... guys are getting the death penalty based on circumstantial evidence and some even end up executed for crimes they didn't commit. Fair justice system huh?
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Post by janet on Jan 15, 2008 15:48:50 GMT -5
ssalways,
Your post is extraordinarily offensive. You purport to care for the many starving and dying throughout the world and attempt to set a moral compass that your subsequent words betray.
How dare you imply that those of us who are opposed to the death penalty don't care about any other group of suffering individuals?
It's because we do care about humanity, and avoid judgment, that, yes, we do support, write, and offer a modicum of humanity to those imprisoned. I suggest that you are a sadly lacking human being for standing in self-righteous judgment of "Evil Ones".
I face myself in the mirror honestly. I can't help but wonder how you face yourself in the mirror when you're filled with such venom?
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Post by briseis on Jun 8, 2008 13:48:29 GMT -5
Ssalwyas,
Just because I'm Anti DP doesn't mean I don't care for murder victims and their families. I care for them just as you do.
Regardless, that has nothing to do with the reasons I'm against the Death Penalty. It isn't a deterrent, it's costly, it won't undo the murders, it won't alleviate the pain and suffering the families of the victims feel ... It will only cause more suffering to the Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Daughters, Sons, Aunts, Uncles of the executed convicts. I care for them too ... Don't you? Or do their feelings not count at all?
How can you look at yourself in the mirror knowing you're supporting the killing of a fellow human being, some mother's son or daughter?
I am not supporting the killing of anyone, and if supporting execution is your way of showing concern for the families of the victims, then I am very sorry for you.
Regards
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Post by banshee on Jun 8, 2008 14:07:56 GMT -5
TO ALL MEMBERS OF CCADP! There is no wonder killings and rapes and torture are so common. There is no fear of being held accountible. (Offensive/disrespectful content deleted here) That is more than most people on this planet get!! 30,000 people will die today alone from starvation ... and we pay to feed, clothe, and educate our murderers and rapists while the victims get nothing. How can you people look yourselves in the mirror every day knowing that you are writing to, supporting, praising, the evil ones who have killed Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Daughters, Sons, Aunts, Uncles in such horrible, despicable ways? Have you all ever once stopped and wondered what the daily lives are like for the families of those murdered by your "beloved thugs"? Do you care? (Offensive/disrespectful content deleted here) Another scummy PRO attempting to stir up trouble here.
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Post by legallybrunette on Jun 20, 2008 19:31:51 GMT -5
aren' t they called 'trolls' ?!! Such an apt term I think.
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Post by godhasitdown on Jul 13, 2008 11:38:24 GMT -5
Hey answer simple. As in most countries, no death penalty. That is way way cheaper and way more money would go to all of those people that your talking about. It is people like you that are for the death penalty that are truly doing this. If you want to spend your money differently, vote to abolish it. Other wise, stop whining and pay the bills for all the inmates and their appeals. It is that simple. It is people like YOU that are spending all of this money, not us. WAKE UP!!!!! TO ALL MEMBERS OF CCADP! There is no wonder killings and rapes and torture are so common. There is no fear of being held accountible. (Offensive/disrespectful content deleted here) That is more than most people on this planet get!! 30,000 people will die today alone from starvation ... and we pay to feed, clothe, and educate our murderers and rapists while the victims get nothing. How can you people look yourselves in the mirror every day knowing that you are writing to, supporting, praising, the evil ones who have killed Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Daughters, Sons, Aunts, Uncles in such horrible, despicable ways? Have you all ever once stopped and wondered what the daily lives are like for the families of those murdered by your "beloved thugs"? Do you care? (Offensive/disrespectful content deleted here)
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Post by andie on Jul 13, 2008 15:17:30 GMT -5
Hey answer simple. As in most countries, no death penalty. That is way way cheaper and way more money would go to all of those people that your talking about. It is people like you that are for the death penalty that are truly doing this. If you want to spend your money differently, vote to abolish it. Other wise, stop whining and pay the bills for all the inmates and their appeals. It is that simple. It is people like YOU that are spending all of this money, not us. WAKE UP!!!!! Actually it's the people who murder other people who keep the death penalty still going...so it's ALL of us who are spending money for the death penalty, for the appeals and for prisons...let's just make that clear.
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Post by godhasitdown on Jul 13, 2008 17:34:44 GMT -5
Well well well then since you know this and if you have a brain in your head which I assume you do since "most" animals can't type (however I have seen monkeys type) you know that killing in any form will never ever change on Planet Earth. Soooooooo on that note, keep paying the bills. We are a group of people that believe that ALL killing is wrong. Humans are humans. If they have a badge it is OK? If they are called to jury duty it is OK? If they are sitting on a bench in black then it is OK? Are you that stupid? These are all human beings. The killing will continue. It is human nature. Look YOU want people dead. You are guilty of murder if your pro-death penalty. God KNOWS your heart, it does not' t matter to him whether you act on it or not. All you have to do is want it. Your just as guilty as anyone that carries out the act to God. Sooooooooo as I said, keep on paying the bills. We, that are anti-death penalty can sleep at night and know we are walking the walk because "we" don't Judge people. We know that the real Judge is there for us. I guess Osama Bin Laden should not be a bad boy aye? Of course not, he didn't kill anyone. He just told others to do it. He is just as guilty as the terrorists that blew up the TC. You do NOT have to kill someone to be a killer. You want the death penalty, you are a killer. Things will not change. Keep paying the bills and stop whining. God even would forgive you if you if you asked him to. You would have to mean it though.. Remember? he knows your mind and heart. ;D
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jul 14, 2008 21:08:05 GMT -5
You are guilty of murder if your pro-death penalty. God KNOWS your heart, it does not' t matter to him whether you act on it or not. All you have to do is want it. You do NOT have to kill someone to be a killer. You want the death penalty, you are a killer. Things will not change. Keep paying the bills and stop whining. God even would forgive you if you if you asked him to. You would have to mean it though.. Remember? he knows your mind and heart. ;D God will forgive Andie for what? Her opinion! Because that's all it is, just as this is yours. No one here needs to hear religous preachings. And I'm sorry but, I think it's a little over dramatic to say that anyone pro-death penalty is a killer. People are entitled to their feelings and beliefs on this issue. True I find the pro-death penalty mind at times illogical and revengeful, it's certainly not murderous, and especially not Andies! A person is entitled to their own feelings. We don't need your religous preachings here, thanks.
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Post by godhasitdown on Jul 14, 2008 23:46:34 GMT -5
Here ya go..... "Victims' Families Petition Against Texas Man's Execution Posted: July 9, 2008 On July 10, Carlton Akee Turner is scheduled to be put to death in Texas for the murder of his adoptive parents when he was 19 years old. But a majority of the victims’ relatives are speaking out against the execution. Victim Tonya Carlton's brother, Kelly Johnson, wrote in a petition to the Board of Pardons and Paroles, “I do not wish to see my sister’s only child executed. I believe in my heart that my sister would only have wanted Akee to receive the help that he needed to restore his mind to a sound state.” Tonya’s first cousin and close friend Krishell Colemen said, “I don’t think Carlton [the defendant] should be executed. I don’t want him to be executed. Now that I know more of the details that led to the murders, I realize that he needs help. Killing him is just another murder. Nothing is going to bring my cousin back. Killing him will just hurt our family again, the way Tonya and Carlton’s murders did.” (Death Penality Information Center USA)
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Post by godhasitdown on Jul 14, 2008 23:50:03 GMT -5
Here is something else to consider. "NEW VOICES: Former District Attorney Changes Mind On Death Penalty A former California deputy district attorney recently explained how he had changed his views on the death penalty after once arguing for it at trial. From that experience, he concluded he “won’t do it again.” As the prosecutor in a heinous murder case, Darryl Stallworth found himself feeling more hesitant about the use of the death penalty as the trial progressed. Stallworth stated, “I was no longer certain what would be accomplished by executing [the defendant].” Although he argued for the death penalty, the jury returned a sentence of life in prison without parole. He remarked, “Though I had lost, I knew justice had been served. I realized I could no longer argue for the death of another human being no matter what atrocious things he or she may have done. I now understand that the death penalty is an ineffective, cruel and simplistic response to the complex problem of violent crime.”
Stallworth went on to add, “Our limited resources could be better spent on programs that focus on stopping violence before it starts, such as preventing child abuse and drug addiction – programs that will prevent another child from becoming the next [murderer].” After serving as the Alameda County deputy district attorney from 1992 until 2007, he says he hopes “more will realize, as I have, that the state [of California] will be a better and safer place when we replace the death penalty with permanent imprisonment.” (D. Stallworth, "Death penalty purpetuates vicious cycle of violence,"San Jose Mercury News, July 6, 2008). See New Voices."
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Post by justme on Jul 15, 2008 7:51:48 GMT -5
You are calling Andie a hypocrite? Look at how big of a hypocrite you are being. Pros are not in your "caliber of social circle" - is that what you have learned about God and Jesus? I can say this to be a fact: You do not know what God thinks of someone else, so quit claiming to know such things. I can say this as an opinion: there are a lot of good people on this board who do an excellent job presenting the arguments against the death penalty. You are not one of those people..you are an embarassment to that cause, and you are now embarrassing us Christians. Sticking "God Bless You" at the end of several posts slamming someone , telling them you know what God thinks of them and that you are better than them, most definitely does not make you a Christian. If you are what you represent to be, then start acting like it. Any why are you slamming pumpinkpie? She is against death penalty and is not unkind to anyone. Pst. Pst. Pst. Why are you even on this board? Do you come here to argue with people because your "for the person to be killed by the state"? I don't normally even talk to pro-death penality people because IMO they are not in my caliber of social circle and I don't want to waste anymore time with talking to someone that is a hypocrite. It is my opinion and if I feel like talking about God then I will. You have to answer to your own sins. I wish you all the best....... God will forgive Andie for what? Her opinion! Because that's all it is, just as this is yours. No one here needs to hear religous preachings. And I'm sorry but, I think it's a little over dramatic to say that anyone pro-death penalty is a killer. People are entitled to their feelings and beliefs on this issue. True I find the pro-death penalty mind at times illogical and revengeful, it's certainly not murderous, and especially not Andies! A person is entitled to their own feelings. We don't need your religous preachings here, thanks.
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Post by godhasitdown on Jul 15, 2008 10:46:02 GMT -5
This is what I know. God from what I have been taught and know, is the only one that should take life. Period! I don't hang around with drunks either because I am an alcoholoc, hence I do not hang around with people that drink. It is not good for my health. Same thing. Simply agree to "dissagree". God Bless All of you!!!!!!! You are calling Andie a hypocrite? Look at how big of a hypocrite you are being. Pros are not in your "caliber of social circle" - is that what you have learned about God and Jesus? I can say this to be a fact: You do not know what God thinks of someone else, so quit claiming to know such things. I can say this as an opinion: there are a lot of good people on this board who do an excellent job presenting the arguments against the death penalty. You are not one of those people..you are an embarassment to that cause, and you are now embarrassing us Christians. Sticking "God Bless You" at the end of several posts slamming someone , telling them you know what God thinks of them and that you are better than them, most definitely does not make you a Christian. If you are what you represent to be, then start acting like it. Any why are you slamming pumpinkpie? She is against death penalty and is not unkind to anyone. Pst. Pst. Pst. Why are you even on this board? Do you come here to argue with people because your "for the person to be killed by the state"? I don't normally even talk to pro-death penality people because IMO they are not in my caliber of social circle and I don't want to waste anymore time with talking to someone that is a hypocrite. It is my opinion and if I feel like talking about God then I will. You have to answer to your own sins. I wish you all the best.......
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