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Post by sclcookie on Feb 24, 2006 3:25:03 GMT -5
Welp, I'm going to vote "NO" this time and I'll tell you why I changed my mind.
First off, it's the same pros that come in here to cause problems....some going back to the pro board and laughing at our cause.
Also, the debates are the same......no new arguments. The pros that come in here aren't coming in here to learn how we think, they already know. If Tracy decides to make the a "no-pro" board, the debate area can be use for educational purposes for those of us who are already anti or who are undecided, e.g. we can provide sources of information.
Another thing, the pros who come in here are a distraction to our cause.
hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by peacefulfrog on Feb 24, 2006 4:52:53 GMT -5
I'm saying NO to this. Simply because of the following; The name of the website is Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty. Aside from all that, even though I've only been joined up for a short while, from the pros posts [the ones I've read] they just seem to shun what we believe in without providing any substantial evidence. That is so true, I completely agree with Suzanne on that one. They are just here to cause trouble. If they were here for a legitimate reason -- other than to stir. Then perhaps I would consider it. But for now as I've already said I'm going to have to decide 100% on No. - Ben.
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Post by onetwobomb on Feb 26, 2006 15:54:43 GMT -5
I'm a pro, and I'm not here to cause problems or hurt feelings. I like to see opinions from both sides of the spectrum, that's all. Also here is a reason why pros should be allowed here as long as they follow the rules: pro sites, like www.Crazy Pros allow antis to post and are treated quite well. I think this is just a matter of being fair.
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Post by onetwobomb on Feb 26, 2006 15:56:03 GMT -5
Lol, what happened to my link?
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 26, 2006 23:24:55 GMT -5
I'm a pro, and I'm not here to cause problems or hurt feelings. I like to see opinions from both sides of the spectrum, that's all. Also here is a reason why pros should be allowed here as long as they follow the rules: pro sites, like www.Crazy Pros allow antis to post and are treated quite well. I think this is just a matter of being fair. That pro site you refered to allows anti's, however, if you voice that you write a dr inmate, they curse you, call you "scum pal", etc., or argue your point, you will get banned. Esp. if you don't let up. Who cares if that pro site allows anti's? Many of the anti's that hang out there (not all) and refuse to come here talk down about us, like I said because we write inmates. Plus you will find a few CO's that hang out at that site, and those CO's that hang out there sure don't need to be coming in here so they can go back to work and laugh about what they did here in front of the DR inmates.
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 28, 2006 13:35:43 GMT -5
I voted yes. The reason for that is because I'm open to contructive criticism as long as it's on a mature and respectful level. Also, because there are pros that could potentially become anti's. I've noticed that some pros are very open to opinion such as onetwobomb. For the most part he's inquired respectfully. Some of the pros are, in deed, very rude and like to cause problems with the same old broken record arguments, but I tend to just ignore those. Most are not even worthy of a response. I've been to the pro boards and have seen how they go back after having visited the anti site and joke and laugh. That's fine with me because based on the majority of posts I've read over there shows their maturity, or the lack thereof rather. It seems to be a game to them rather than seriousness dedicated to a cause they claim to support. *yawn* They show no challenge, and unitelligent and imature conversation bores me. So far, onetwobomb, has disrespected this board a couple of times, e.g. in one of Richard Cartwright's threads and in the introduction area........ a pro who comes in here needs to respect us KNOWING that this is an ANTI-DEATH PENALTY Board rather than coming in and "testing" us. So at the moment, onetwobomb, is not a very good example. So my answer remains "no". Especially, after dealing with pros coming in here for almost a year, with open arms....the more they come and disrespect us (a few don't, but most do), the more I'm turned off by pros coming in here. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 28, 2006 13:57:24 GMT -5
I disagree. He posted in the wrong place when he posted in the introduction section, and when I pointed that out to him he left it alone. I don't think what he said in Richard Cartwright's support page was meant to be disrespectful. He was stating his opinions as are we. You should remember this IS the debate section. it was disrespectful. Rich's family and friends read these posts. This is an anti-dp board. He should have thought about it before posting.
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Post by dfar on Mar 1, 2006 0:14:37 GMT -5
deleted......disrespectful to this board and this mod.
Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 1, 2006 1:55:19 GMT -5
I think that you either allow the pros on this site and allow them to discuss their views in the debate area, or just ban them all together. But remember, the prison website is already a pro free site. If antis want to go to a pro free site, why not go there? Why have a debate site where anyone with an oposing opinion is immediately banned, or deleted, even an anti as what just happened with jennaleigh's question to a moderator. Just some insight.... I'm sure at this rate, this will pribably get deleted as well. Kinda sad though. But to welcome a site with debate means you welcome the likes of others opinions and are willing to discuss them... But to immediately delete their posts by a mod, really means their is a dictatorship instead of a debate forum. I am not trying to stir the pot, just pointing out the obvious. I have lurked on this site for a while, and this type of behaviour is uncalled for, in my humble opinion. just me J, you really don't know the whole story about Jennaleigh. As far as pros being here, that's what this poll is all about. I still disagree with pros being here because they come in here to stir up crap.....they are usually the same pros. And if this site was pro-free, we wouldn't need the debate area anymore.... Many anti's used to come here don't anymore....they go to pro-free forums.....much more peaceful instead of the bull-crap games.
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Post by judywaits4u on Mar 1, 2006 2:54:30 GMT -5
I have stated before that I do not think pros should be allowed here, on what is supposed to be a support forum for the convicted. You let pros in and you are left defending something that you may not want to defend because we know that the majority of people on death row are guilty but that CP is murder also. Pros just coming here to cause trouble and make outlandish claims as to who we love and why we love them. Then they run back to their little pro scum site and boast about what they think that have aachieved here, which in truth is nothing.
Love and hugs, Judy
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 1, 2006 3:07:19 GMT -5
I have stated before that I do not think pros should be allowed here, on what is supposed to be a support forum for the convicted. You let pros in and you are left defending something that you may not want to defend because we know that the majority of people on death row are guilty but that CP is murder also. Pros just coming here to cause trouble and make outlandish claims as to who we love and why we love them. Then they run back to their little pro scum site and boast about what they think that have aachieved here, which in truth is nothing. Love and hugs, Judy Exactly
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Post by jay on Mar 1, 2006 12:47:12 GMT -5
Suzanne and Judy!!! You have both always been very pleasant to me and I am a pro!!!!
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Post by judywaits4u on Mar 1, 2006 14:02:24 GMT -5
Suzanne and Judy!!! You have both always been very pleasant to me and I am a pro!!!! Dear Jay, You know as well as I do, the types of pro we are talking about. Love and hugs, Judy
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Post by xyntax on Mar 1, 2006 16:24:51 GMT -5
I voted NO this time. I base it upon the fact that I have found other boards dealing with discussing the DP, and then I think this board could devote itself to ANTI DP altogether, which I think is needed as well.
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Post by jay on Mar 1, 2006 18:02:31 GMT -5
I voted NO this time. I base it upon the fact that I have found other boards dealing with discussing the DP, and then I think this board could devote itself to ANTI DP altogether, which I think is needed as well. But look at the good you can do. You got me my first pen friend.
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