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Post by wtf on Jan 4, 2006 15:51:31 GMT -5
I have read over and over the messages here and on the other site and I don't think you all are getting the message.
Most (I will not ever use the word ALL) MVS's do not have the problem that you are against the death penalty. It's the lack of respect that you have for them for their feelings, their fears, their hurt and pain.
You do not have to justify your beliefs to no one. However, what is needed is to have compassion for someone who is hurting no matter if you believe their pain or not. COMPASSION.... just listen and not tell them they are wrong for their feelings. Most people just want acknowledgement of their pain and hurt, not someone arguing with them. Get it?
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Post by catsan77 on Jan 4, 2006 15:55:28 GMT -5
I agree with you, WTF
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Post by sdl on Jan 4, 2006 16:27:48 GMT -5
I have read over and over the messages here and on the other site and I don't think you all are getting the message. Most (I will not ever use the word ALL) MVS's do not have the problem that you are against the death penalty. It's the lack of respect that you have for them for their feelings, their fears, their hurt and pain. You do not have to justify your beliefs to no one. However, what is needed is to have compassion for someone who is hurting no matter if you believe their pain or not. COMPASSION.... just listen and not tell them they are wrong for their feelings. Most people just want acknowledgement of their pain and hurt, not someone arguing with them. Get it? You mean their acknowledgements that consist of "NEXT!!!" or the scknowledgement that consists of spray-bottles filled with urine? The acknowledgements that resemble a drunken frat party? People who support executing a 9 year old? Support condoning lying to another nation to extradite? |
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jan 4, 2006 16:40:03 GMT -5
I have read over and over the messages here and on the other site and I don't think you all are getting the message. Most (I will not ever use the word ALL) MVS's do not have the problem that you are against the death penalty. It's the lack of respect that you have for them for their feelings, their fears, their hurt and pain. You do not have to justify your beliefs to no one. However, what is needed is to have compassion for someone who is hurting no matter if you believe their pain or not. COMPASSION.... just listen and not tell them they are wrong for their feelings. Most people just want acknowledgement of their pain and hurt, not someone arguing with them. Get it? tell me honestly wtf.. where do yu see the lack of respect that we allegedly have for the feelings, fears, hurt and pain of mvs? ...and who says we dont have compassion for them .. it would not be human to have no compassion for people who lost beloved ones in tragical ways .. to discuss things does not necessarily mean a lack of respect ... mvs want understanding for their feelings and their pain and in their situation they definitely deserve it ... but understanding and respect doent mean to pussfoot around people and to stay away from discussions ... one can discuss in respectful ways even when questioning or discussing personal stances ... you cant expect us to take all kinds of insults or aggression from a person cuz this person is a mvs (i only did it once cuz i saw the terrible and fresh pain this person was in) and not react on it .. yes one should do it in a POLITE way but one should definitely do it ... Mo-DAWG |
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Post by judywaits4u on Jan 4, 2006 16:51:12 GMT -5
Dear Mo,
This was probably something his friends told him on the pro scum site.
Genuine MVSs will always get support here but people who pretend to be MVSs are just sick.
Is it RickZwho claims he is an MVS just because he lives in New York, even though he knows nobody who was killed or injured by 9/11?
Love and hugs,
Judy
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Post by wtf on Jan 4, 2006 20:51:37 GMT -5
I have read over and over the messages here and on the other site and I don't think you all are getting the message. Most (I will not ever use the word ALL) MVS's do not have the problem that you are against the death penalty. It's the lack of respect that you have for them for their feelings, their fears, their hurt and pain. You do not have to justify your beliefs to no one. However, what is needed is to have compassion for someone who is hurting no matter if you believe their pain or not. COMPASSION.... just listen and not tell them they are wrong for their feelings. Most people just want acknowledgement of their pain and hurt, not someone arguing with them. Get it? You mean their acknowledgements that consist of "NEXT!!!" or the scknowledgement that consists of spray-bottles filled with urine? The acknowledgements that resemble a drunken frat party? People who support executing a 9 year old? Support condoning lying to another nation to extradite? I wasn't talking about the people on the pro board who do their stupid little celebrations. most on there ARE NOT MVS's. I'm talking about true MVS that hurt and just want to vent their pain and frustrations and just to have someone say...."YES, YOU ARE RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY YOU DO". and leave it at that instead of preaching to them like you all do.................there is a difference |
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Post by kathy on Jan 5, 2006 1:59:11 GMT -5
Ah WTF has read Amber's posts. WTF has it ever dawned on you that some of us are MV'S?  I have great sympathy for these peoples feelings. How ever that sympathy does not extend to having another person murdered! Feelings of hurt are one thing, VENGEANCE is totally different. |
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Post by sclcookie on Jan 5, 2006 8:28:35 GMT -5
I have read over and over the messages here and on the other site and I don't think you all are getting the message. Most (I will not ever use the word ALL) MVS's do not have the problem that you are against the death penalty. It's the lack of respect that you have for them for their feelings, their fears, their hurt and pain. You do not have to justify your beliefs to no one. However, what is needed is to have compassion for someone who is hurting no matter if you believe their pain or not. COMPASSION.... just listen and not tell them they are wrong for their feelings. Most people just want acknowledgement of their pain and hurt, not someone arguing with them. Get it? Ok, which MVS's are you talking about? Because this MVS is disgusted with the lack of respect we get for being against the death penalty. |
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Post by judywaits4u on Jan 5, 2006 8:45:57 GMT -5
Ok, which MVS's are you talking about? Because this MVS is disgusted with the lack of respect we get for being against the death penalty. Dear Suzanne, As an MVS I feel exactly the same as you. Love and hugs, Judy |
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Post by catsan77 on Jan 5, 2006 8:55:05 GMT -5
Dear Mo, This was probably something his friends told him on the pro scum site. Genuine MVSs will always get support here but people who pretend to be MVSs are just sick. Is it RickZwho claims he is an MVS just because he lives in New York, even though he knows nobody who was killed or injured by 9/11? Love and hugs, Judy are you suggesting that amber wasnt really a mvs? |
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Post by sclcookie on Jan 5, 2006 8:58:19 GMT -5
amber was full of sh*t
She couldn't make up her mind on who was murdered recently, e.g. her child, her mother......she was playing make believe.
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Post by sclcookie on Jan 5, 2006 9:03:58 GMT -5
plus a pm I received from amber confirmed my a$$umption that she/he was only in here for her little game rather than a civil debate.
You see, we don't mind pros in here who are in here for genuine reasons, like out of curiousity or civil debates, however the ones who come in here with their insults to our cause without getting to know, making accussations as to why we are anti, and playing their little games, well, those are the ones who generally cause problems, therefore, I have some fun with their posts and modify and delete.....
Oh, I can really have fun with my modifications however, Lomita is much much better at those than I am.
Of course the banning comes sooner or later for those.
And why?
Because like any other forum, this one has rules to follow.
hugggz,
Suzanne
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Post by judywaits4u on Jan 5, 2006 9:11:25 GMT -5
are you suggesting that amber wasnt really a mvs?[/quote] Nope I was not suggesting it, I was stating it as fact. |
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Post by paleone on Jan 5, 2006 9:44:40 GMT -5
i dont know one way or another if she is real or fake...but bear in mind people that this is the internet..i could tell everyone i am a 40 year old man and i could get as offended as all hell and say i cannot believe that no one believes me for saying i am a 40 year old man...obviously i am not a 40 year old man..but why would anyone have any reason to believe i would be lieing? because this is the INTERNET..people can hide behind their little screen names and say things just to get a rise out of people...faking being a MVS would be a perfect ploy for some pro or even some 14 year old kid wanting to just get their sh*ts and giggles...
how easy is it? "oh yeah? well tell that to my son..oh wait...you can't he was brutally murdered by a pedophile" let's see now, it isnt like anyone wants to say "stop faking" because WHAT IF they really are legit? The fakes that do this know full well we have heart enough not to immediately assume they are lieing...
and that's one reason i am backing more and more away from this site...this site has way too many arguments and the same pro vs anti argument time and time again and honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if some are just highschool sophmores getting all hysterical with their friends for screwing with our heads...internet arguing is a rather pointless endeavor...and i am party to it as well, so i know i am speaking to myself...
i am only in this whole death penalty fight to in my hopes help towards the abolishment and to save the life of my loved one...i value all life and arguing with everyone is not worth my time anymore...
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Post by skyloom on Jan 5, 2006 9:53:10 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about the people on the pro board who do their stupid little celebrations. most on there ARE NOT MVS's. I'm talking about true MVS that hurt and just want to vent their pain and frustrations and just to have someone say...."YES, YOU ARE RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY YOU DO". and leave it at that instead of preaching to them like you all do.................there is a difference There are some on the other board who are families of murder victims and who celebrate all executions in terms like SDL mentioned. If a murder victim's family member wants to vent his or her pain, a message board of total strangers seems a strange choice of venue to do that when there are friends, other family, clergy, counselors, and numerous others in one's own community who, in some cases, have specific training in dealing with grief issues or with court systems and procedures. Nonetheless, if a message board is one's choice, there is that other message board and its offshoot message boards where venting frustration and rage is encouraged. Why insist on coming to a message board where one already knows one's comments will not be welcomed? It's probably more likely that a murder victim's family member will be told that it's normal to feel the way s/he does at this time. Feelings are neither right nor wrong... they just happen. Everyone, though, has a choice about how they respond to feelings. There's a story about two animals that are fighting. One is named Peace and one is named War. Which one will win? The one you feed. |
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