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Post by CDNStefan on May 31, 2005 23:58:05 GMT -5
The state doesnt KILL them. They are executed. I tell ya what...you antis get together and support them for the rest of their lives so we pros dont have to and that will at least knock down just ONE of our reasons. Can you say that IF the DP was abolished, antis would not start with the whole LWOP is a violation of civil rights? They cant do this, they cant do that...abolish LWOP. Nice slippery slope argument. The argument that abolishing the death penalty would inevitable start a movement to abolish a Life Without Parole option is preposterous and is based on flawed logic. What facts is this hypothesis based on? Besides it actually costs the state more to have the death penalty due to the cost of court time for appeals. I will try to find the exact source of the information but its been estimated that in Florida (death penalty) state the average cost for a death penalty prosecution to actual execution is $2.1 M. It is estimated that incarcerating for life costs approx. $500,000. So the argument that if antis were to get together and support (I assume financially) DR inmates for the rest of their lives would nullify just ONE of the arguments that DP supporters have is moot (sp?) as it is currently costing taxpayers as a collective more just to see the inmate dead. Stefan
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Post by Missyme on Jun 1, 2005 0:01:36 GMT -5
Maybe...but you KNOW should the DP be abolished, antis would ban together to ban LWOP because of the "horrible" conditions they have to live with. Just ticks me off that they get things hard working free citizens dont.
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Post by Prometheus on Jun 1, 2005 0:10:04 GMT -5
When robbers and thieves stop using capitol punishment to get what they want, then I will consider switching sides. But as that is impossible, I guess I am safe. Robbers and thieves do not use capital punishment. Capital Punishment is a euphemism created by the state to make 'state sponsored homicide more palitable.' it is a "legal" term and thus it is impossible. That said, if you are attempting to be clever, using capital punishment to mean murder, then you should be aware that robbers and theives by definition do not do thiis. Please, if you are going to argue, strive for correctness.
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Post by gill on Jun 1, 2005 7:24:14 GMT -5
Robbers and thieves do not use capital punishment. Capital Punishment is a euphemism created by the state to make 'state sponsored homicide more palitable.' it is a "legal" term and thus it is impossible. That said, if you are attempting to be clever, using capital punishment to mean murder, then you should be aware that robbers and theives by definition do not do thiis. Please, if you are going to argue, strive for correctness. Thank you Prometheus! I don't know how many messages I sent to that eejit; but I have learnt he doesn't have the ability to see reason, and fact! Hugs, Gill
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Post by truth1 on Jun 1, 2005 14:24:47 GMT -5
The State does kill them. I think the word you're looking for is 'murder'. As anti death penalty, my argument is, there should not be legal murder. Executing/killing, whichever word you feel less guilty about, is sending out the message to society that it's ok to kill those who we believe have offended us. I don't think it is. And I don't care you're you're George Bush or some waster claiming benefits; taking the life of another human being is shocking. I'm pro life. Everyones life. Actually, they killed themselves by committing murder.
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