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Post by realist on Jun 7, 2008 11:15:43 GMT -5
No sneaking, no insulting, no vengeful, acrimonious posting.... I too, am very apprensive about executing truly innocent prisoners. I have been an anti, for that reason, for most of my life, untill reciently. I have welcomed, to my own board, ALL honorable, civil posters, of any opinion. Are honorable, civil, differences of opinion, as welcome here, as they are on pro dp boards?
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jun 7, 2008 15:50:17 GMT -5
No sneaking, no insulting, no vengeful, acrimonious posting.... I too, am very apprensive about executing truly innocent prisoners. I have been an anti, for that reason, for most of my life, untill reciently. I have welcomed, to my own board, ALL honorable, civil posters, of any opinion. Are honorable, civil, differences of opinion, as welcome here, as they are on pro dp boards? Exactly. We've got a great running forum. Except today when I came home and noticed a big old mess on this forum that you started. I've deleted the debates and disrespectful posts of yours which were posted in inappropriate areas of this forum. Please don't make a mess of this forum, and stay in the debate section. Debates are to be civil with no name calling from anyone. And no disrespect towards anti's or this website, or those doing so will not be allowed to post here.
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Post by briseis on Jun 8, 2008 13:27:54 GMT -5
Realist,
In my experience of Pro DP boards, Antis such as myself have been treated with disrespect and criticised brutally for their opinions on the Death Penalty.
I have yet to be able to have a civilised discussion with a Pro, as the discussion usually disintegrates badly the moment I mention I have a penpal on DR, and suddenly I am verbally abused to the point where I wash my hands of the discussion completely.
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us with a more civilised approach to debate between Pro and Anti, although in light of Pumpkinpie's comment above, I'm not that optimistic.
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Post by sdl on Jun 9, 2008 3:09:08 GMT -5
Realist, In my experience of Pro DP boards, Antis such as myself have been treated with disrespect and criticised brutally for their opinions on the Death Penalty. I have yet to be able to have a civilised discussion with a Pro, as the discussion usually disintegrates badly the moment I mention I have a penpal on DR, and suddenly I am verbally abused to the point where I wash my hands of the discussion completely. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us with a more civilised approach to debate between Pro and Anti, although in light of Pumpkinpie's comment above, I'm not that optimistic. I have always been treated with disrespect there. One regular there, a Sacramento City Councilman likes to attack my wife and refer to me as a "morbidly obese Commie load."
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Post by briseis on Jun 9, 2008 14:45:14 GMT -5
Sdl,
Why do they attack your wife?
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Post by sdl on Jun 9, 2008 15:35:28 GMT -5
Sdl, Why do they attack your wife? That's the way they are there. THere are a few pros who have PMed me and said that they are ashamed and embarrassed because of this jerk. Sad to say he's a local politician in Sacramento, CA Attacking families is nothing new for right-wing wackos. In 1992, when Clinton took office ( I am far from being a fan of Clinton) this piece of scum named Rush Limbaugh did a little slide show on his TV show noting the Clinton's had a cat named Socks...and then said they also had a dog..and he then showed a picture of the then-12 year old Chelsea Clinton. They attack kids as well. Not surprised..they advocate executing them as well.
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Post by briseis on Jun 10, 2008 7:30:13 GMT -5
Yes, I can well believe it. I had a Pro who told me my fiancé must be "mentally disturbed" to be dating someone as "sick and twisted" as me.
All because I told them I had a penpal on Death Row.
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Post by sdl on Jun 12, 2008 2:49:34 GMT -5
Yes, I can well believe it. I had a Pro who told me my fiancé must be "mentally disturbed" to be dating someone as "sick and twisted" as me. All because I told them I had a penpal on Death Row. I don't have a penpal, but since I am also against the war and anti-Bush, I am considered a traitor. Oh, anybody who gets exonerated from DR did so because his lawyer bribed somebody. Must be true...that's what they say. I also have another enemy there who is Jewish like me...and she says I cannot be a good Jew because I am not a pro-Israel Zionist and I do NOT support the DP. Of course, she admires Meir Kahane, who is a person I shed no tears over when he was killed. Even some of the so-called "antis" will turn on you there. Wish I could say what i really think of people from that board, but I know cussing is frowned upon here Oh, one or two will actually make threats of violence to you as well
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Post by smokey1 on Jun 19, 2008 7:07:01 GMT -5
Realist, In my experience of Pro DP boards, Antis such as myself have been treated with disrespect and criticised brutally for their opinions on the Death Penalty. I have yet to be able to have a civilised discussion with a Pro, as the discussion usually disintegrates badly the moment I mention I have a penpal on DR, and suddenly I am verbally abused to the point where I wash my hands of the discussion completely. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us with a more civilised approach to debate between Pro and Anti, although in light of Pumpkinpie's comment above, I'm not that optimistic. I have always been treated with disrespect there. One regular there, a Sacramento City Councilman likes to attack my wife and refer to me as a "morbidly obese Commie load." omg they did that...they ought to be ashamed of themselves there is no need to get personal,why is it so hard to have a clean debate on the subject.
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Post by sdl on Jun 26, 2008 19:34:42 GMT -5
I have always been treated with disrespect there. One regular there, a Sacramento City Councilman likes to attack my wife and refer to me as a "morbidly obese Commie load." omg they did that...they ought to be ashamed of themselves there is no need to get personal,why is it so hard to have a clean debate on the subject. No, being clean would be a good idea. According to my fellow Jew there, my father was mentally ill because he couldn't hate afer losing his family in the Holocaust I'm a self-hating Jew. From her, I call that a badge of honor. All this person does is play the Holocaust card and says every Austian /German should be guilty for what happened.
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Post by smokey1 on Jun 28, 2008 4:46:14 GMT -5
omg they did that...they ought to be ashamed of themselves there is no need to get personal,why is it so hard to have a clean debate on the subject. No, being clean would be a good idea. According to my fellow Jew there, my father was mentally ill because he couldn't hate afer losing his family in the Holocaust I'm a self-hating Jew. From her, I call that a badge of honor. All this person does is play the Holocaust card and says every Austian /German should be guilty for what happened. how can someone be blamed for past generations actions it makes no sense,sounds like this person is full of hate,it will eat you up from the inside out,they should get over it.& get on with there life,they need professional help.
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Post by melindajustice on Aug 14, 2008 21:37:41 GMT -5
Ok, y'all, maybe you can help me to understand. I am an open minded person. I am a Family Practitioner who respects life. I am anti-abortion (I often find it interesting that some anti-dp folks support a "woman's right" to kill her child....but oh well. Anyway....I am just curious....honestly....why you all are here. I came across this site by accident. I was trying to find out what ever happened with Michelle Michaud. I thought she was pretty horrible. I use to be a pro-dp person, but I am now begining to change my mind. For one thing, I think that people who commit horrible crimes should live with it...I think that maybe they can redeem themselves or evolve or grow in some way, to prepare themselves for whatever comes after this life. The other reason, is that I have heard of many cases in which innocent people have been convicted. However, that all being said....I just can't understand pouring all of your energies into protecting MOSTLY bad people.....when there are so many innocent people being murdered daily, who could use your energies of protest and education instead. I am referring mostly to unborn children. I do not mean to sound judgemental towards you all. I truly do want to understand. Maybe you see something I don't.......so share. I will listen with an open mind and heart.
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Post by pumpkinpie on Aug 15, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -5
Ok, y'all, maybe you can help me to understand. I am an open minded person. I am a Family Practitioner who respects life. I am anti-abortion (I often find it interesting that some anti-dp folks support a "woman's right" to kill her child....but oh well. Anyway....I am just curious....honestly....why you all are here. I came across this site by accident. I was trying to find out what ever happened with Michelle Michaud. I thought she was pretty horrible. I use to be a pro-dp person, but I am now begining to change my mind. For one thing, I think that people who commit horrible crimes should live with it...I think that maybe they can redeem themselves or evolve or grow in some way, to prepare themselves for whatever comes after this life. The other reason, is that I have heard of many cases in which innocent people have been convicted. However, that all being said....I just can't understand pouring all of your energies into protecting MOSTLY bad people.....when there are so many innocent people being murdered daily, who could use your energies of protest and education instead. I am referring mostly to unborn children. I do not mean to sound judgemental towards you all. I truly do want to understand. Maybe you see something I don't.......so share. I will listen with an open mind and heart. Hi Melinda, welcome. You said it yourself, there have been cases where innocent people have been convicted and sentenced to death. That, and I am pro-life, like you. I am against abortion and the death penalty. There is a thread here titled for or against abortion in the section at the bottom of this forum. I did find it kind of weird how some people who were against the death penalty were for abortion. I'm not here defending bad people. Only sticking up for their right to life. Life behind bars where they belong of cource! I'm also looking at cases where the inmate is possibly innocent. And looking at those who've been exonerated from death row because they've been innocent, yet sentenced to death.
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