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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 20:57:18 GMT -5
Yep the SP thread has been deleted. No one is fessing up to doing it. Guess one is not to question. We are just suppose to follow like sheep. And just when I thought we had escaped the dark ages!! Modawg, I too am glad you did not leave. I missed seeing you post. thanks for your nice post kathy ... heres a hug 4 u ... (smile) ... well about the thread i gotta find out who deleted it and why the f*ck it got deleted .. there was nothing wrong with it ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by kathy on Dec 2, 2005 21:05:33 GMT -5
MOdawg, And here is a HUGE hug for you!! (and a smile too) I didn't see what was wrong with the SP thread. Please do see what you can find out.
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Post by kathy on Dec 2, 2005 21:26:11 GMT -5
Erick,
I would like your opinion on something. If they do execute Tookie, do you think that the Crips will in some way try to retalliate? IMO they aren't organized enough to do it on a world scale, but I am wondering about CA. I can't imagine them letting this just pass by.
Thanks, Kathy
PS About your felony. Erick, sh*t happens to the best of us. Looking to the future is far better than looking back!
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Post by sdl on Dec 2, 2005 22:08:03 GMT -5
hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon Mo-DAWG BTW, thanks for calling me an ex-felon instead of just a felon. My criminal past is a stigma that I constantly struggle with, and I truly hate part of myself for that. Too bad for you that if you lived here in Florida you can't vote Edited to correct a major typo
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Post by erick on Dec 3, 2005 0:35:48 GMT -5
Erick, I would like your opinion on something. If they do execute Tookie, do you think that the Crips will in some way try to retalliate? IMO they aren't organized enough to do it on a world scale, but I am wondering about CA. I can't imagine them letting this just pass by. Thanks, Kathy PS About your felony. Erick, sh*t happens to the best of us. Looking to the future is far better than looking back! Hi Kathy!! I do not think that the Crips will retaliate if Williams is executed. I am no expert or anything, but I do not see it happening.
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Post by erick on Dec 3, 2005 0:43:04 GMT -5
BTW, thanks for calling me an ex-felon instead of just a felon. My criminal past is a stigma that I constantly struggle with, and I truly hate part of myself for that. Too bad for you that if you lived here in Florida you can't vote Edited to correct a major typo I can't do a lot of things because of my felony status. I am allowed to vote here in WI (I voted for Kerry), but it sucks being a felon. However, I earned it, and I deserve it. I just wish I could take it back. To clear-up any ambiguity, I was arrested on drug charges. I ended-up pleading guilty for possession of cocaine. I f#cked-up and deserve to be scorned. I am a disgrace to my family, and I accept that. I just wish I could turn back the clock. On the plus side, I have never used drugs since the day of my arrest.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 3, 2005 10:17:06 GMT -5
Erick, I would like your opinion on something. If they do execute Tookie, do you think that the Crips will in some way try to retalliate? IMO they aren't organized enough to do it on a world scale, but I am wondering about CA. I can't imagine them letting this just pass by. Thanks, Kathy PS About your felony. Erick, sh*t happens to the best of us. Looking to the future is far better than looking back! kathy allow me to reply to your post and question .... retaliating one of their is a question of honor for them ... like it is for EVERY gang ... it has nothing to do with being organized or being widely spread in a state or all over the country ... yes tookie is not a member anymore but he was their co-founder and many gangs live by "once you´re in you´ll never really get out" ... of course i dont think they would retaliate tookie in ways like assassinating the governor or something like that ... my suspicion is that they gonna retaliate him by killing some cops or c.o´s outside of prisons or something out of revenge ... i cant speak in general here but those gangs i know of wouldnt let one of theirs die without retaliating him ... it would be like capitulation or an act of weakness for them if they didnt .... as i said it has to do with the gang-understanding of honor ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 3, 2005 13:44:12 GMT -5
"I would like your opinion on something. If they do execute Tookie, do you think that the Crips will in some way try to retalliate? IMO they aren't organized enough to do it on a world scale, but I am wondering about CA. I can't imagine them letting this just pass by." I can. they're a bunch of cowardly thugs. Do you really imagine in your wildest dreams that they're going to go up against, for instance, the well-armed, well-trained State Troopers in the governor's security detail? "kathy allow me to reply to your post and question .... retaliating one of their is a question of honor for them ... like it is for EVERY gang ..." As I said above, they're a bunch of cowardly street punks who generally predate against their own, not a Marine rifle company. They may riot and thus harm their own people, like they usually do, but an organized effort is far beyond them. Anyone who thinks differently is living in a shoot-'em-up movie fantasy world. no no opal ... i agree with you they wont take it out on state troopers in the gov´s security det. or something ... im more into believing they might take it out on street cops or so ... like and drive-bys and stuff ... when you lived with gangs or was involved gang life then you know what their rules are about and can guess what it is they´re most likely gonna do ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by sdl on Dec 3, 2005 17:56:46 GMT -5
"I would like your opinion on something. If they do execute Tookie, do you think that the Crips will in some way try to retalliate? IMO they aren't organized enough to do it on a world scale, but I am wondering about CA. I can't imagine them letting this just pass by." I can. they're a bunch of cowardly thugs. Do you really imagine in your wildest dreams that they're going to go up against, for instance, the well-armed, well-trained State Troopers in the governor's security detail? "kathy allow me to reply to your post and question .... retaliating one of their is a question of honor for them ... like it is for EVERY gang ..." As I said above, they're a bunch of cowardly street punks who generally predate against their own, not a Marine rifle company. They may riot and thus harm their own people, like they usually do, but an organized effort is far beyond them. Anyone who thinks differently is living in a shoot-'em-up movie fantasy world. Doesn't matter how much security Arnold has. All it takes is one good shot for The Terminator to get Terminated. They *will* go after Arnold. That would be the "highest honor killing" What can the cops do to prevent it? Arrest EVERY black person within a 10 mile radius of where Arnold would be on any given day? The sh!t is going to go down in a major way...
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Post by kathy on Dec 3, 2005 19:51:23 GMT -5
Well I guess SDL and I are sharing the same Bong Water because I think they will retaliate too. I have a feeling that The Terminator is going to be Terminated. I don't think they will have any qualms about who they kill. It takes a lot less than Tookie dying to send them on a rampage! And Hi Erick, Thanks for answering me. Erick, you aren't a disgrace, you are simply someone that made a mistake. ( And I'll let you in on a little secret. I have one (a felon) in my family, I love him just as much as I ever did. Your Mom does too!!)
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Post by Maggie on Dec 4, 2005 11:08:35 GMT -5
Well I guess SDL and I are sharing the same Bong Water because I think they will retaliate too. I have a feeling that The Terminator is going to be Terminated. I don't think they will have any qualms about who they kill. It takes a lot less than Tookie dying to send them on a rampage! And Hi Erick, Thanks for answering me. Erick, you aren't a disgrace, you are simply someone that made a mistake. ( And I'll let you in on a little secret. I have one (a felon) in my family, I love him just as much as I ever did. Your Mom does too!!) I have never given much thought to the Crips retaliating.... do you really think this is possible? I don't know much about the gangs in CA-- but I wonder if there has been any chatter about this within the gang circles? I still think Arnold is going to grant clemency.... I really do. It might ruin him in politics, but I think he's on his way out anyway and knows it.
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Post by kathy on Dec 4, 2005 11:38:25 GMT -5
Maggie,
This is just my opinion but I really do think if they execute Tookie there will be a blood bath. Despite the fact that Tookie has been in prison all these years, he is still their founder. I think they have to retaliate to save face. They will look like cowards in the eyes of the other gangs. And well, they kill for a lot less than Tookies execution. (and believe me I hope I am wrong!)
You may be right, Arnie may thumb his nose and grant clemency. I think it would be a wise decision in more ways than one.
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Post by Maggie on Dec 5, 2005 7:16:04 GMT -5
Maggie, This is just my opinion but I really do think if they execute Tookie there will be a blood bath. Despite the fact that Tookie has been in prison all these years, he is still their founder. I think they have to retaliate to save face. They will look like cowards in the eyes of the other gangs. And well, they kill for a lot less than Tookies execution. (and believe me I hope I am wrong!) You may be right, Arnie may thumb his nose and grant clemency. I think it would be a wise decision in more ways than one. I wonder if gang experts are saying anything about this? Does anybody know how active the crips still are? Anyway Kathy let's just hope Arnold decides life in Hollywood beats life in politics and grants clemency. I think he will even though most who have voted here think he will not.
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Post by janet on Dec 5, 2005 17:43:32 GMT -5
Well, I voted yes and I hope it isn't simply a result of wishing it so. Since Arnold did so poorly early in November, he may well devote more thought to this highly unpopular pending execution.
No matter where one stands on the DP, Tookie Williams has accomplished a great deal while on death row and has tremendous influence over gangs. If he isn't an example of complete rehabilitation, I don't know who is.
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Post by sclcookie on Dec 7, 2005 14:35:19 GMT -5
Don't forget to send out your letters/email/faxes/phone calls! www.tookie.com/
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