Clarification about deletions of posts

[sclcookie]

I just want to clarify that I don't delete posts unless they are offensive to one another or trying to start or continue an unnecessary fight.

I just want to make sure you are aware of this. Some posts that I may find offensive, I left up so I don't delete all of them.

Thanks,
Suzanne

[ela]

I feel to answer to this becouse you deleted on of my post; and to be honest I don't feel immature at all. My post was not offensive and I remember that I have said: " if you want to fight, just let me know, I am not on my best day for tolerate... " or something like this. Saying this was obviously " react to a dare with another dare", and again, I do not think to be immature for this. Actually you have the possibility to delete what you don't like; I can not delete what i don't like or what I think is not respectful; but I can answer... but if I answer, you delete my answer... I am just a bit confused about this immaturity thing. I know what I say and I know by my self that I wouldn't fight for everything... I am still able to control myself thanks God... and I think I have never fighted unrespectfully on here; of course all is ok, I mean, I can survive if you delete one of my post; no problem at all... but, the only thing I can do when I feel unrespected is answer with the same "tone" I have received; just becouse I can not always tolerate and I can not always ignore what people say. I just react becouse I am an hman being and I have my days too... this is not immaturity.
hugs, Ela

[sclcookie]

if I deleted one of your posts that wasn't fighting, it's only because it "quoted" a fight. I think I remember which one you were talking about and if it's the one I'm thinking of, and I don't remember what was said, but it wasn't offensive.....but it showed the offensive post by the other.

I think I pmed you about it......i'll double check my pms.

hugggz,
Suzanne

[sclcookie]

I found the pms:

hey
« Message sent on 6/23/05 at 16:10 »

I'm deleting your entry being that it's not necessary anymore.

hugggz,
Suzanne

Re: hey
« Message sent on 6/23/05 at 16:27 »

No, you did good. He shouldn't have disrespected the board like that. I just didn't want any trouble started, i.e. "who said 'juiced'?" know what I mean.

hugggz,
Suzanne


leaving it up could have caused a fight with others after he respectfully edited his comment.........

[ela]

I told you, no problems at all... just to make it clear that I don't feel an immature person and that sometimes what you call "fights" are just not normal reactions that we are able to keep under control. We have the right to react to dares i think; it's not a tragedy... yes you pmed me and I answered you that I was a bit disappointed. But all is ok, I mean, you know what is the right thing to do, and I am sure you had your reasons. All is good.

[ela]

normal reactions, not "not normal" sorry....

[sclcookie]

your right, we have a right to react. Believe me I do. I'm not miss perfect here. But it's not right for me to react like that.

I've had to delete my own posts also, so believe me I'm far from perfect. But if I left my defensive posts that may hurt others wouldn't be right either.

[mustangsally]

sclcookie said:

I just want to clarify that I don't delete posts unless they are offensive to one another or trying to start or continue an unnecessary fight.

I just want to make sure you are aware of this. Some posts that I may find offensive, I left up so I don't delete all of them.

Thanks,
Suzanne

Just to clarify something here . So its alright for people to say that someone needs juiced or someone to say they don't care about what victim families think and those post stay .What exactly is your criteria for what is offensive? Isn't this the same as censorship? Just a thought!

[sclcookie]

censorship? I guess it would be. But this being an Anti forum, Mothers, Fathers, Children and Spouses of Death Row inmates prefer not to hear those terms.

Attacking and accusing the families of the inmates of not caring about the victims isn't fair either. Being a family and/or friend of a death row inmate is emotional straining as it is without the assumptions that we don't care about the victims family.

I am a girlfriend of a murder victim, plus friends of 2 murder victims and my great granddad was a deputy sheriff shot in the line of duty, so.......I'm sure I'm not the only friend of death row inmates who's a victim's family/friend also.

[sclcookie]

mustangsally said:

sclcookie said:

I just want to clarify that I don't delete posts unless they are offensive to one another or trying to start or continue an unnecessary fight.

I just want to make sure you are aware of this. Some posts that I may find offensive, I left up so I don't delete all of them.

Thanks,
Suzanne

Just to clarify something here . So its alright for people to say that someone needs juiced or someone to say they don't care about what victim families think and those post stay .What exactly is your criteria for what is offensive? Isn't this the same as censorship? Just a thought!

You might check this link thread out for clarification:

ccadp.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1119115485

[ela]

You are abslutely right cookie... THAT kind of offensive posts should not be tolerated... it was what i was trying to say in my post... maybe I did it the wrong way; I dunno... sorry...

[sclcookie]

That's ok...I'm sorry too

hugggz,
Suzanne

[sclcookie]

ela said:

You are abslutely right cookie... THAT kind of offensive posts should not be tolerated... it was what i was trying to say in my post... maybe I did it the wrong way; I dunno... sorry...

Actually your post was perfectly fine...the one I'm thinking about.....it was just geared toward the unacceptable post so I deleted it, also, to try to keep the trouble down....

Anyway, if I remember correctly, you commented on someone using the word "juiced" and you were offended by it. They modified their post, so it was corrected so being that they corrected it, your post wasn't necessary anymore.

You weren't wrong for telling them it wasn't right for them to use that term, but like I said they changed the word "juiced" to executed out of respect.

So being that they corrected they're post, I didn't feel your post was necessary anymore in order to keep others from saying something to the pro who made the mistake

[mustangsally]

sclcookie said:

censorship? I guess it would be. But this being an Anti forum, Mothers, Fathers, Children and Spouses of Death Row inmates prefer not to hear those terms.

Attacking and accusing the families of the inmates of not caring about the victims isn't fair either. Being a family and/or friend of a death row inmate is emotional straining as it is without the assumptions that we don't care about the victims family.

I am a girlfriend of a murder victim, plus friends of 2 murder victims and my great granddad was a deputy sheriff shot in the line of duty, so.......I'm sure I'm not the only friend of death row inmates who's a victim's family/friend also.

I did not make an assumption when I made the statement about families of DR inmates not caring about what the victims family thinks but read it in another thread where someone made this comment,which in my opinion is wrong.I am not saying ,by any means , all inmate families are like this but when one person makes statements like that ,it makes the rest of us ,who have a loved one on DR look bad.We already have enough problems with loving someone on DR without feeding into all those who already have bad opinions about us. People do read these post because it is a public area.
I feel we need to care for everyone involved , the inmate ,their family ,victims and the victims family and not only be focused on one part of it without seeing the other side of the issue. I think it is important for both sides to try and understand the other sides position. I have watched a very dear friend who lost his daughter to a vicious murder/rape, go from a productive member of society ,to living inside a bottle of booze and his life is still much the same, 13 yrs after her murder.
I was in no way attacking anyone but trying to understand why it is ok for some post to stay but others have to go . It seems to me that antis can just about say just about anything they want on here and it is fine but the pro's who come on herethey have to walk around like they are on egg shells .I understand this is an anti death penalty site but I have to admit most of the pros have been somewhat respectful on here and those who haven't ,is gone. I am an ANTI and I find myself walking around here on egg shells too and that is kind of sad. If a pro makes a comment to something an anti said, then it is called attacking but if an anti does the same thing ,it is called debate. I think we are suffering from a bit of a double standard here ,which is not fair. I thought this was why the debate section was made ,to debate the issues and to keep the more heated posts in this area.
I understand that loved ones of DR inmates come in here because I happen to have a loved one sitting on DR . I would prefer not coming in here and hearing those terms either but it is a fact of life.I wouldn't want to come on here and find my loved ones name used in an attacking post but I am adult enough to know that can happen because ,after all this is the internet. {That's why I choose not to post any direct info about my loved one on a public forum}
I have dealt with this for a lot of years , I have lost a few friends and family over my CHOISE to love someone on DR but when I went into this ,I went in with my eyes wide open,knowing full well what to expect. Most of my friends and family ,at least, made the effort to understand why I feel the way I do and love and respect me anyway, even though they disagree.
I know one day ,my loved one could be executed , we live with that death clock ticking over our head every day but we focus on our time together and not on that but it always is in the back of our minds.I know I may one day watch them execute the person I love but I am a realist and know we do not live in a perfect world. I feel folks should have the right to express an opinion ,regardless of their stand , in the debate section without every word being censored.

[mustangsally]

ela said:

You are abslutely right cookie... THAT kind of offensive posts should not be tolerated... it was what i was trying to say in my post... maybe I did it the wrong way; I dunno... sorry...

Ela it wasn't something you said but someone else in a different post.