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Post by bentyprodp1 on Apr 16, 2006 13:01:37 GMT -5
While I totally disagree with the stance on abolishing the DP, I would like to understand why when someone who is about to be executed admits to his/her murder and asks the MVS for forgivness, a retraction is not a part of your forum.
I totally agree with the fact that an innocent person should never be executed and be afforded a fair trial. If however that person is found guilty beyond any doubt (ie dna evidence, a video tape etc) and 'claim' to be innocent and then admits thier crime prior to execution, that your organization is not as adament about printing a retraction as you are in your cause to stop the DP?
I'd be interested in your honest reasoning.
Benty ProDp
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Post by CCADP on Apr 16, 2006 14:33:47 GMT -5
Hey Benty -
Isn't this very similar to one of your very first questions here when it was brand new forum...?
hope you and family are well... tracy
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Post by bentyprodp1 on Apr 16, 2006 20:49:15 GMT -5
Tracy...it's possible, but since i never got a response I thought I'd throw it out there to get some answers.... Family is fine..thanks for asking BentyProDP Hey Benty - Isn't this very similar to one of your very first questions here when it was brand new forum...? hope you and family are well... tracy |
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Post by oztash on Apr 17, 2006 0:09:10 GMT -5
Benty
For me the question of guilt or innocence isnt a issue, I am 100% against the dp for any reason, but as those on here know, Iam 100% pro punishment, which for me iss LWOP. Iam not trying to take anything away for mvs, which I myself am, I just believe that killing to show that killing is wrong, just dosnt make sense. I also know that for me personally, killing my fathers killers wouldnt bring him back, and would only cause their family to go through what Iam going through.
Tasha
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Post by bentyprodp1 on Apr 17, 2006 18:16:29 GMT -5
Tasha, As an MVS I respect your opinion. My only disagreement is that the people that murder know the law and know that they can lose thier own life if they break the law. So executing a murderer is obeying the law. Perhaps these people that murder should think about thier family before they commit such heinous acts? But again, you are an MVS and therefore i respect your feelings even though i don't necessarily agree with them As you know, an MVS has to do whatever it takes to try to heal thier hearts and if lwop is what is good for you, so be it. Thanks for your reply. It's a shame that no one on this board had the guts to answer my questions about truth and retractions, apparently truth and honesty isn't the paramount requirement to be an "anti"... I am sorry for the loss of your Dad. Benty (Bob) Benty For me the question of guilt or innocence isnt a issue, I am 100% against the dp for any reason, but as those on here know, Iam 100% pro punishment, which for me iss LWOP. Iam not trying to take anything away for mvs, which I myself am, I just believe that killing to show that killing is wrong, just dosnt make sense. I also know that for me personally, killing my fathers killers wouldnt bring him back, and would only cause their family to go through what Iam going through. Tasha |
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Post by CCADP on Apr 18, 2006 9:04:29 GMT -5
I found the original very similar question - and there was actually a huge discussion with 8 pages of responses to you in the early days of this forum. Its all still up and available to read at ; ccadp.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1115740647also - as to 'the guts to answer' - I think you'll see that there were not many on the board at all yesterday; I think its more like most did not see your question; and others knew its all been answered... best; tracy |
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Post by skyloom on Apr 18, 2006 15:07:03 GMT -5
While I totally disagree with the stance on abolishing the DP, I would like to understand why when someone who is about to be executed admits to his/her murder and asks the MVS for forgivness, a retraction is not a part of your forum. I believe that whatever is posted on a prisoner's webpage is submitted by a member of their family or someone who is familiar with their case, rather than something that's composed by someone who is a moderator on this board. I also believe that as individuals we express our personal opinions about the guilt or innocence of individual prisoners. That being the case, there is no reason for CCADP to say anything. If the individuals choose to retract their comments, it's up to them. Many prisoners go to their death insisting on their innocence. I don't see the pros over there on that other message board retracting their statements and/or admitting they were wrong when that happens. This group consists of those who oppose the death penalty. Even if the individual prisoner is guilty and admits his guilt at some point, it doesn't change the fact that the death penalty is barbaric. You are barking up the wrong tree here, Benty. |
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Post by oztash on Apr 18, 2006 18:19:28 GMT -5
skyloom
Great post.
Tasha
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Post by sclcookie on Apr 20, 2006 0:55:49 GMT -5
benty, which case are you refering to?
hugggz,
Suzanne
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Post by bentyprodp1 on May 4, 2006 12:55:42 GMT -5
Tasha, FIrst, I am so sorry for your loss. Second, thanks for your honesty. Since you actaully know the feeling of losing a loved one to a heinous act, I certainly respect your opinion. What I have found thru the years is that it is important to do what ever you have to do in order to heal your heart...so, if the DP isn't right for you, I respect your opinion, but it does seem right for me... Thanks again for your comments Benty ProDP Benty For me the question of guilt or innocence isnt a issue, I am 100% against the dp for any reason, but as those on here know, Iam 100% pro punishment, which for me iss LWOP. Iam not trying to take anything away for mvs, which I myself am, I just believe that killing to show that killing is wrong, just dosnt make sense. I also know that for me personally, killing my fathers killers wouldnt bring him back, and would only cause their family to go through what Iam going through. Tasha |
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Post by bentyprodp1 on May 4, 2006 13:01:00 GMT -5
Suzanne, Actually there are really too many to name, but at the time last month when I posted this, i believe it was someone like Melvin White.... Thanks for asking.... Bob benty, which case are you refering to? hugggz, Suzanne |
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