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Post by kathy on Feb 2, 2006 20:00:06 GMT -5
I have been reading articles about Florida not wanting Inmates to have Pen Pals. It has been said that these people can be severely punished if they don't have their names taken off the pen pal lists. I also read that some of these inmates are afraid that their names have been put on these pen pal sites without their knowing and they think they will get in trouble for it, even though they didn't ask to be put on there.
As a pen pal site admin do you allow a prisoners family to request that their name be taken off? And have all the names on the CCADP pen pal site been requests from inmates or has CCADP obtained the names and put them on?
I see that several groups are working to get this stupid rule "abolished" but after a couple of years have not seemed to make much progress. Do you think maybe by us writing to Florida DR Inmates we are perhaps causing more harm than good for these people? If this is a law in Florida then aren't we breaking that law by writing to them? And aren't we also giving the inmate the means to break this law?
I don't want anyone to get into trouble because I write to them. If my pen pal were to get their visitations taken away or be put in solitary confinement for 30 days I would be devastated.
I would appreciate your in put on this.
Kathy
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Post by judywaits4u on Feb 3, 2006 5:17:41 GMT -5
Dear Kathy,
The policy of the State Governor is that all prisoners, including death row prisoners, should keep up contact with people outside of the prison. This problem has arisen in just one prison in the State and is a local problem that the Government are currently investigating.
Any law preventing any inmates from having pen pals has been shown to be contrary to the US Constitution.
Love and hugs,
Judy
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Post by skyloom on Feb 3, 2006 10:35:25 GMT -5
Dear Kathy, The policy of the State Governor is that all prisoners, including death row prisoners, should keep up contact with people outside of the prison. This problem has arisen in just one prison in the State and is a local problem that the Government are currently investigating. Do you know which prison that is? |
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Post by judywaits4u on Feb 3, 2006 10:58:32 GMT -5
Dear Sky,
Florida State Prison.
Love and hugs,
Judy
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Post by kathy on Feb 3, 2006 16:18:28 GMT -5
The policy of the State Governor is that all prisoners, including death row prisoners, should keep up contact with people outside of the prison. This problem has arisen in just one prison in the State and is a local problem that the Government are currently investigating.
Judy, I really don't understand what you are saying here. Jebby is the one enforcing this is he not? If he said it was OK then it would be ok. That is not the case. It is not OK with Florida for the inmates to have pen pals.
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 4, 2006 1:25:40 GMT -5
I have been reading articles about Florida not wanting Inmates to have Pen Pals. It has been said that these people can be severely punished if they don't have their names taken off the pen pal lists. I also read that some of these inmates are afraid that their names have been put on these pen pal sites without their knowing and they think they will get in trouble for it, even though they didn't ask to be put on there. As a pen pal site admin do you allow a prisoners family to request that their name be taken off? And have all the names on the CCADP pen pal site been requests from inmates or has CCADP obtained the names and put them on? I see that several groups are working to get this stupid rule "abolished" but after a couple of years have not seemed to make much progress. Do you think maybe by us writing to Florida DR Inmates we are perhaps causing more harm than good for these people? If this is a law in Florida then aren't we breaking that law by writing to them? And aren't we also giving the inmate the means to break this law? I don't want anyone to get into trouble because I write to them. If my pen pal were to get their visitations taken away or be put in solitary confinement for 30 days I would be devastated. I would appreciate your in put on this. Kathy "9) Inmates shall not use correspondence privileges to solicit or otherwise commercially advertise for money, goods or services. For the purposes of this rule this includes advertising for pen-pals; inmates are not prohibited from corresponding with pen pals, but shall not place ads soliciting pen pals. Inmates are prohibited from receiving correspondence or materials from persons or groups marketing advertising services, or from subscribing to advertising services. Inmates who post ads or have ads posted with the assistance of another person shall be subject to disciplinary action." source: www.dc.state.fl.us/secretary/legal/ch33/chp33-210.docnow if that inmate does not have the ad posted however someone on the outside posts their ad without permission, that inmate isn't violating any policy, now are they? so they should not be punished for something they had nothing to do with. hugggz, Suzanne |
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Post by judywaits4u on Feb 4, 2006 4:54:17 GMT -5
Dear Suzanne,
As I said before the only prison I can find who are using this law to punish prisoners is Florida State Prison. The law is completely Schizophrenic as it does not bar inmates from having their own web sites.
To say inmates can have pen pals as long as they do not advertise for them is a violation of the US Constitution.
The problem is that if you remove these pen pal requests, the State then has proof that the inmate has control over these requests and proof that they have broken the law.
Love and hugs,
Judy
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Post by CCADP on Feb 4, 2006 10:17:14 GMT -5
---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Keeping Inmates In Touch With The World Your Voice Needs To Be Heard! Florida inmates Friends... Florida inmates have lost their First Amendment rights. They urgently need your voice to speak for them since their voice has been silenced. Please take 5 or 10 minutes to stand against this cruel, inhumane, and unconstitutional rule. Each and every voice is desperately needed! www.writeaprisoner.com/florida-contacts.htm Email this page to human rights groups, churches, your friends and everyone you know who believes in standing up for what is right. |
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Post by kathy on Feb 4, 2006 18:17:45 GMT -5
How would a DR Prisioner ever prove that they are on a website that solicits pen pals through no act of their own? I doubt it would make any difference to the Officials how they got there. Only that they are.
Are you telling me that you are not concerned if they get in trouble just as long as their name is on the list? This sounds like they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Post by catskillz on Feb 5, 2006 5:43:18 GMT -5
Mailed, keep it up tracy, and don't give in.  |
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 5, 2006 22:45:22 GMT -5
How would a DR Prisioner ever prove that they are on a website that solicits pen pals through no act of their own? I doubt it would make any difference to the Officials how they got there. Only that they are. Are you telling me that you are not concerned if they get in trouble just as long as their name is on the list? This sounds like they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Innocent until proven guilty. If you know of an inmate being punished for having a pen pal ad in which they did not authorize, help that inmate. hugggz, Suzanne |
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Post by kathy on Feb 6, 2006 1:01:39 GMT -5
How?
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Post by sclcookie on Feb 6, 2006 4:02:02 GMT -5
Help them get in contact with the ombudsman of the prison, that would be a first step.
The ombudsman is there for the inmate.
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Post by attitude on Feb 6, 2006 21:16:25 GMT -5
Help them get in contact with the ombudsman of the prison, that would be a first step. The ombudsman is there for the inmate. I think Kathy's question is a fair one... and Suzanne you answer was quite vague I was going to write a thesis on this issue as it does involve a controversial move by the antis... |
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Post by attitude on Feb 6, 2006 21:18:00 GMT -5
Help them get in contact with the ombudsman of the prison, that would be a first step. The ombudsman is there for the inmate. Also, can Florida make a law like this, Iam thinking of the Arizona Court decision...would it hold up under a court challenge |
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