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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jul 14, 2005 8:58:33 GMT -5
Or even a pro to write just to see the human side of the inmates and what may have got them on dr in the first place, to give them a better understanding. I know there is a human side to the inmates. The problem is: that side is overshadowed by the side that brought them to death row. I do not think that I could write to them. I would constantly keep thinking of the crime they were accused of. .."that side is overshadowed by the side that brought them to DR" you said.....well i´ll tell ya what Truth1...i dont judge a person by a single action ..there´s more about a human being than that..i even think its wrong to reduce a person to that one or two single actions...i try to see people in their entirety..thats why i personally dont have any problems writing and also befriending a few DR inmates and get them lawyers and private investigators on their cases....(maaan i´ve seen much worse than these boyz in the outside world...no kidding) Mo-DAWG
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Post by truth1 on Jul 14, 2005 10:28:28 GMT -5
I know there is a human side to the inmates. The problem is: that side is overshadowed by the side that brought them to death row. I do not think that I could write to them. I would constantly keep thinking of the crime they were accused of. .."that side is overshadowed by the side that brought them to DR" you said.....well i´ll tell ya what Truth1...i dont judge a person by a single action ..there´s more about a human being than that..i even think its wrong to reduce a person to that one or two single actions...i try to see people in their entirety..thats why i personally dont have any problems writing and also befriending a few DR inmates and get them lawyers and private investigators on their cases....(maaan i´ve seen much worse than these boyz in the outside world...no kidding) Mo-DAWG I am not saying that all of those guys are the worst, I am merely stating that most of the murders were horriffic enough to paint a pretty ugly picture of their disposition. Humans tend to think of the worst. We are conditioned that way. Think about it--when was the last time you heard someting positive on the news? All things considered, you have to admit that it is pretty hard to see the good in someone that beat a pregnant woman so badly with a gun that the trigger guard broke off.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jul 14, 2005 10:35:15 GMT -5
.."that side is overshadowed by the side that brought them to DR" you said.....well i´ll tell ya what Truth1...i dont judge a person by a single action ..there´s more about a human being than that..i even think its wrong to reduce a person to that one or two single actions...i try to see people in their entirety..thats why i personally dont have any problems writing and also befriending a few DR inmates and get them lawyers and private investigators on their cases....(maaan i´ve seen much worse than these boyz in the outside world...no kidding) Mo-DAWG I am not saying that all of those guys are the worst, I am merely stating that most of the murders were horriffic enough to paint a pretty ugly picture of their disposition. Humans tend to think of the worst. We are conditioned that way. Think about it--when was the last time you heard someting positive on the news? All things considered, you have to admit that it is pretty hard to see the good in someone that beat a pregnant woman so badly with a gun that the trigger guard broke off. oh yes many of the cases i´ve seen really turned my stomach and left me wondering how things like that could happen..but if i had to work with inmates like that i would definitely overcome my personal feelings and do it (and yes you are very right human beings are conditioned that way, thinking of the worst...its a mechanism/instinct we were given with birth to protect us)...i didnt read or hear about the case with the pregnant woman you are referring to in you previous post and i have to admit it shocks me...would you mind to tell me the case/give me a link for it? Mo-DAWG
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Post by truth1 on Jul 14, 2005 11:08:17 GMT -5
I am not saying that all of those guys are the worst, I am merely stating that most of the murders were horriffic enough to paint a pretty ugly picture of their disposition. Humans tend to think of the worst. We are conditioned that way. Think about it--when was the last time you heard someting positive on the news? All things considered, you have to admit that it is pretty hard to see the good in someone that beat a pregnant woman so badly with a gun that the trigger guard broke off. oh yes many of the cases i´ve seen really turned my stomach and left me wondering how things like that could happen..but if i had to work with inmates like that i would definitely overcome my personal feelings and do it (and yes you are very right human beings are conditioned that way, thinking of the worst...its a mechanism/instinct we were given with birth to protect us)...i didnt read or hear about the case with the pregnant woman you are referring to in you previous post and i have to admit it shocks me...would you mind to tell me the case/give me a link for it? Mo-DAWG The offender was named Allen Lee Davis. Here is a synopsis of what happened: Allen Lee Davis was convicted of killing a pregnant Jacksonville woman and her two young daughters on May 11 in 1982. Davis, 54, was convicted of murdering Nancy Weiler, a Westinghouse executive's wife in Jacksonville who was three months pregnant when she was killed in 1982. Mrs. Weiler was "beaten almost beyond recognition," with a .357, hit over 25 times in the face and head {she was blugeoned so severely, the trigger guard broke off the gun}. Her 9-year-old daughter Kristina was tied up and shot twice in the face, and her 5-year-old daughter Katherine was shot in the back as she was trying to run away and then her skull was beaten in with the gun. The murders occurred the day before Kristina's 10th birthday. The Weilers were neighbors of Davis's parents and after the murders, Davis stole a camera and some jewelry. The Weiler family was about to move and Nancy's husband John had gone ahead to Pennsylvania to await his family. Two other death warrants have been issued in the case in last 13 years. 37 at the time of the murders, Davis had a string of felony convictions to his credit and was on parole for armed robbery at the time. The aftermath of his execution is readily available on the net. The picture was taken to show the cruelty of the electric chair. The pictures are VERY graphic.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jul 14, 2005 11:45:04 GMT -5
oh yes many of the cases i´ve seen really turned my stomach and left me wondering how things like that could happen..but if i had to work with inmates like that i would definitely overcome my personal feelings and do it (and yes you are very right human beings are conditioned that way, thinking of the worst...its a mechanism/instinct we were given with birth to protect us)...i didnt read or hear about the case with the pregnant woman you are referring to in you previous post and i have to admit it shocks me...would you mind to tell me the case/give me a link for it? Mo-DAWG The offender was named Allen Lee Davis. Here is a synopsis of what happened: Allen Lee Davis was convicted of killing a pregnant Jacksonville woman and her two young daughters on May 11 in 1982. Davis, 54, was convicted of murdering Nancy Weiler, a Westinghouse executive's wife in Jacksonville who was three months pregnant when she was killed in 1982. Mrs. Weiler was "beaten almost beyond recognition," with a .357, hit over 25 times in the face and head {she was blugeoned so severely, the trigger guard broke off the gun}. Her 9-year-old daughter Kristina was tied up and shot twice in the face, and her 5-year-old daughter Katherine was shot in the back as she was trying to run away and then her skull was beaten in with the gun. The murders occurred the day before Kristina's 10th birthday. The Weilers were neighbors of Davis's parents and after the murders, Davis stole a camera and some jewelry. The Weiler family was about to move and Nancy's husband John had gone ahead to Pennsylvania to await his family. Two other death warrants have been issued in the case in last 13 years. 37 at the time of the murders, Davis had a string of felony convictions to his credit and was on parole for armed robbery at the time. The aftermath of his execution is readily available on the net. The picture was taken to show the cruelty of the electric chair. The pictures are VERY graphic. oh yes Truth1 i´ve seen the pics and now i remember they called him "Tiny" Davis and i´ve seen the pictures before..thanks for the warning , but i´m ok with the pictures i dont have a problem watching them... well yes i knew that name but i didnt know the case before .... after reading about it i have to nadmit that this guy was really an ass...i mean i wouldnt have wanted to see him killed just because its a principle of mine that i hate this killing sh*t no matter WHO does it...but after reading about him i gotta say he would have deserved to rot in jail forever and a day... Mo-DAWG
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Post by truth1 on Jul 14, 2005 13:05:02 GMT -5
The offender was named Allen Lee Davis. Here is a synopsis of what happened: Allen Lee Davis was convicted of killing a pregnant Jacksonville woman and her two young daughters on May 11 in 1982. Davis, 54, was convicted of murdering Nancy Weiler, a Westinghouse executive's wife in Jacksonville who was three months pregnant when she was killed in 1982. Mrs. Weiler was "beaten almost beyond recognition," with a .357, hit over 25 times in the face and head {she was blugeoned so severely, the trigger guard broke off the gun}. Her 9-year-old daughter Kristina was tied up and shot twice in the face, and her 5-year-old daughter Katherine was shot in the back as she was trying to run away and then her skull was beaten in with the gun. The murders occurred the day before Kristina's 10th birthday. The Weilers were neighbors of Davis's parents and after the murders, Davis stole a camera and some jewelry. The Weiler family was about to move and Nancy's husband John had gone ahead to Pennsylvania to await his family. Two other death warrants have been issued in the case in last 13 years. 37 at the time of the murders, Davis had a string of felony convictions to his credit and was on parole for armed robbery at the time. The aftermath of his execution is readily available on the net. The picture was taken to show the cruelty of the electric chair. The pictures are VERY graphic. oh yes Truth1 i´ve seen the pics and now i remember they called him "Tiny" Davis and i´ve seen the pictures before..thanks for the warning , but i´m ok with the pictures i dont have a problem watching them... well yes i knew that name but i didnt know the case before .... after reading about it i have to nadmit that this guy was really an ass...i mean i wouldnt have wanted to see him killed just because its a principle of mine that i hate this killing sh*t no matter WHO does it...but after reading about him i gotta say he would have deserved to rot in jail forever and a day... Mo-DAWG Right. Now you can see why it would be impossible to write someone like this without thinking of the horrible crime he committed. I mean this guy murdered those innocent people for a camera and jewelry. He couldn't just shoot them (which is bad enough), he had to beat them repeatedly with such a hatred that is seldom seen in this world. Keep in mind, I realize not all people on death row are like Davis.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jul 14, 2005 13:10:54 GMT -5
oh yes Truth1 i´ve seen the pics and now i remember they called him "Tiny" Davis and i´ve seen the pictures before..thanks for the warning , but i´m ok with the pictures i dont have a problem watching them... well yes i knew that name but i didnt know the case before .... after reading about it i have to nadmit that this guy was really an ass...i mean i wouldnt have wanted to see him killed just because its a principle of mine that i hate this killing sh*t no matter WHO does it...but after reading about him i gotta say he would have deserved to rot in jail forever and a day... Mo-DAWG Right. Now you can see why it would be impossible to write someone like this without thinking of the horrible crime he committed. I mean this guy murdered those innocent people for a camera and jewelry. He couldn't just shoot them (which is bad enough), he had to beat them repeatedly with such a hatred that is seldom seen in this world. Keep in mind, I realize not all people on death row are like Davis. yes you are right, his case is really one of the worst i ever heard of and i have to admit one thing...i intentionally never worked with inmates who killed children but guess i would try to force myself to if i had to ... although i also have to admit that i´m very sensitive about cases with children involved...yes i should be rational all the time and i really try my best..will it always work? frankly: I DUNNO!!!..oh f*ck..Mo-DAWG admitting her Achilles-heel huh... Mo-DAWG
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Post by truth1 on Jul 14, 2005 13:37:20 GMT -5
Right. Now you can see why it would be impossible to write someone like this without thinking of the horrible crime he committed. I mean this guy murdered those innocent people for a camera and jewelry. He couldn't just shoot them (which is bad enough), he had to beat them repeatedly with such a hatred that is seldom seen in this world. Keep in mind, I realize not all people on death row are like Davis. yes you are right, his case is really one of the worst i ever heard of and i have to admit one thing...i intentionally never worked with inmates who killed children but guess i would try to force myself to if i had to ... although i also have to admit that i´m very sensitive about cases with children involved...yes i should be rational all the time and i really try my best..will it always work? frankly: I DUNNO!!!..oh f*ck..Mo-DAWG admitting her Achilles-heel huh... Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jul 14, 2005 14:06:37 GMT -5
yes you are right, his case is really one of the worst i ever heard of and i have to admit one thing...i intentionally never worked with inmates who killed children but guess i would try to force myself to if i had to ... although i also have to admit that i´m very sensitive about cases with children involved...yes i should be rational all the time and i really try my best..will it always work? frankly: I DUNNO!!!..oh f*ck..Mo-DAWG admitting her Achilles-heel huh... Mo-DAWG our lil secret...dont tell anybody ;D ;D ;D Mo-DAWG
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Post by mikebook on Jul 14, 2005 20:28:04 GMT -5
And that is why I would not write an inmate...EVER.
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Post by suzieq on Jul 14, 2005 22:46:21 GMT -5
I have had the BEAUTIFUL chance to meet personally Bill Pelke; he is the grandson of Ruth Pelke, murdered by Paula Cooper in 1985; Paula was 15 at the time of crime. Bill Was a very pro death penalty person... well.. I am not going to tell you the whole story right now.... however he started to write to Paula... something slowly started to change inside of him... and well.. he WAS THE MAN WHO FIGHTED MOST to get Paula out from death row.... He told us that Paula now is completetely rehabilited, she got an university degree while in prison ( after she got off from DR of course...) and now, he is president and co-fonder of Journey of Hope an organization led by murder victim family members who oppose the death penalty... He is one of the greatest person I have ever met in my life... but... I think few people would be able to do what he has done..... very few people.... I have met Bill too , isn't he wonderful ? I went to Journey of Hope when it came to our state in 2003. I think he is a wonderful example of complete forgiveness . I read a book called " Not in My Name" but I can't remember who wrote it and it was various stories from MVS who forgave the person who murdered their loved one. I think that would take a great amount of courage to do .
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