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Post by sclcookie on Jun 18, 2005 10:46:35 GMT -5
exactly. So if you have anything against our views, post it in the debate area, please.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 18, 2005 10:47:20 GMT -5
But it is decisons that we make that touch other peoples lives. I know this...I want to go to school...Wendy misses me so she is content to join me and is bored at the school for a few hours each week so she can be with me...She gives up an evening to be with me insead of at home. I let her watch and control the tv because there is nothing on tv I like...Again, choices... yeah but no but yeah......did u drink Mike? seriously...i´m wondering whazzup with ya since some time..... Mo-DAWG
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Post by jj on Jun 18, 2005 10:47:51 GMT -5
I would have to say that the criminal punished his family and his friends by the deeds he did. He inflicted the punishment on his family by killing someone during the commission of a crime. Things may get out of hand, or he wanted to eliminate any witnesses, or he just wanted to kill someone. He placed his family in this position and did not care about them until later and then starts to care. The state has to execute the person and I do know that the inmates family does suffer, but the person on death row is the one responsible... I disagree, the state does not have to execute. Yes, the inmate put himself where he is. But the state creates more victims by killing them. That is a choice they make, like it was the choice the inmate made when he killed someone. there is a difference between the two. Think about it, the inmates killed on the spur of the moment, things got out of hand, drugs or whatever. But the state fights to kill someone. I have never seen an inmate fight so hard to kill someone as I have the state. Plan it, prepare for it, practice for it and then come out grinning saying "justice is done". While the inmates family comes out devastated with the image of what they just saw burned into their minds.
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Post by ela on Jun 18, 2005 10:50:48 GMT -5
Mike you can not compare even for 1 second the choice that someone take about eating pizza for breakfast as the "choice" to kill someone.. I mean.. it makes no sense... I've never seen anyone in my life waking up one morning and say" Let's see... i will CHOOSE to kill someone..." it's ridiculous... And.. again YOU say that people have ALL chances to live in the boundries of what is acceptable; I wish it was true. But it doesn't work like this. I am sure I have had many many more chances in my life than most of the people who end on DR. And maybe that's one of the reason for which I am here.
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Post by ela on Jun 18, 2005 10:51:47 GMT -5
I know, sorry, this is not the debate area. My apologies.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 18, 2005 11:17:11 GMT -5
I know, sorry, this is not the debate area. My apologies. no dear thats very ok...equal rights for all posters and you didnt start the debate... always Mo-DAWG
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Post by ela on Jun 18, 2005 11:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by scottieswife on Jun 18, 2005 11:49:36 GMT -5
Ok even if the imate put himself where he ended up. The question still is Who does an execution really punish?
It punishes the family but there are many other victims in this execution process. What about the guards who have to work with these men, talk to them, feed them , sometimes even befriend them then have to take them to their death because it is part of "the job".
So one execution affects more people than we can ever really realise. the inmate, his family, friends, the victim, the victims family and friends, staff and then the staff have to go home and how do you switch off from what you took part in that day? So it affects the guards families too, probably it affect their families for a while before it.
As I quoted before, "An execution is not simply death. It is just as different from the privation of life as a concentration camp is from prison. It adds to death a rule, a public premeditation known to the future victim, an organization which is itself a source of moral sufferings more terrible than death. Capital punishment is the most premeditated of murders, to which no criminal's deed, however calculated can be compared. For there to be an equivalency, the death penalty would have to punish a criminal who had warned his victim of the date at which he would inflict a horrible death on him and who, from that moment onward, had confined him at his mercy for months. Such a monster is not encountered in private life."
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Post by lene on Jun 18, 2005 20:11:50 GMT -5
The other victims know their loved one got a raw deal, because there are plenty of murderers who is serving life in prison - or even served for a while and got out. And as I have asked before - when pros blame the inmates for the pain their families go through, I wonder if the victims who died because they put themselves in a dangerous position is to blame they got killed? (For example drug deals that got wrong - or child molestors getting killed while in prison by another inmate, gang wars etc... etc...)
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Post by lene on Jun 18, 2005 20:14:02 GMT -5
And also - I think it is wrong to bring up specific inmates name when debating an issue. Especially if it is KNOWN that their friends and family is on this board for support and haven't invited others to discuss that person. I think it is down right mean.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 18, 2005 23:12:43 GMT -5
I would have to say that the criminal punished his family and his friends by the deeds he did. He inflicted the punishment on his family by killing someone during the commission of a crime. Things may get out of hand, or he wanted to eliminate any witnesses, or he just wanted to kill someone. He placed his family in this position and did not care about them until later and then starts to care. The state has to execute the person and I do know that the inmates family does suffer, but the person on death row is the one responsible... This is very well put mike.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 18, 2005 23:15:46 GMT -5
I would have to say that the criminal punished his family and his friends by the deeds he did. He inflicted the punishment on his family by killing someone during the commission of a crime. Things may get out of hand, or he wanted to eliminate any witnesses, or he just wanted to kill someone. He placed his family in this position and did not care about them until later and then starts to care. The state has to execute the person and I do know that the inmates family does suffer, but the person on death row is the one responsible... like i said Mike..the pros do everything to justify the killings and no argument is too cheap to justify what they want.....the satisfaction of watching a human being die....why not just being open and honest and say: "yeah we want revenge thats our kind of justice..we wanna see the pig die cuz it satisfies us...the victims is dead so we wanna see the inmate dead cuz its SATISFYING"....maaan is it so damn difficult just to admit the truth and not hide behind explanations? pros want it that way so why the f*ck they dont wanna admit it??? that´s ridiculous!!! would at least ONE pro have the balls to s íl vous plait? Mo-DAWG (NOT vengeful) Someone answers what you want noosh, it will only get them banned.
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Post by lostlove84 on Jun 18, 2005 23:27:34 GMT -5
The other victims know their loved one got a raw deal, because there are plenty of murderers who is serving life in prison - or even served for a while and got out. And as I have asked before - when pros blame the inmates for the pain their families go through, I wonder if the victims who died because they put themselves in a dangerous position is to blame they got killed? (For example drug deals that got wrong - or child molestors getting killed while in prison by another inmate, gang wars etc... etc...) That is just so WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 19, 2005 6:03:45 GMT -5
like i said Mike..the pros do everything to justify the killings and no argument is too cheap to justify what they want.....the satisfaction of watching a human being die....why not just being open and honest and say: "yeah we want revenge thats our kind of justice..we wanna see the pig die cuz it satisfies us...the victims is dead so we wanna see the inmate dead cuz its SATISFYING"....maaan is it so damn difficult just to admit the truth and not hide behind explanations? pros want it that way so why the f*ck they dont wanna admit it??? that´s ridiculous!!! would at least ONE pro have the balls to s íl vous plait? Mo-DAWG (NOT vengeful) Someone answers what you want noosh, it will only get them banned. No they shouldnt cuz i WANT this honest answer...and they shouldnt get banned because it was ME who provoked the answer cuz i want them to be honest....i would ask Tracy not to ban them ..i mean you know me Shawni..i want HONEST answers, no bla bla, no bow wow wow Mo-DAWG
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 19, 2005 11:14:04 GMT -5
hey! I just realized I got CO by my nick! okay, time to gas y'all! sorry, i couldn't resist!
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