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Post by BentyProDP on May 10, 2005 11:53:14 GMT -5
I am a 59 year old man, married for 37 years to my high school sweetheart. We have 3 grown children and 5 grandchildren. One was horrifically murdered by a homosexual pedophile. I am a Viet Nam combat veteran having served my country honorably for 4 years in the USMC. I have a degree in business management. I am an avid proponent of the death penalty as I believe the only true punishment for taking the life of an innocent person is to forfeit your own life. For family members of an innocent victim (especially a child) to listen to convicted murderers lie, make false claims on thier appeals and frivolous law suits and not to take responsibility for thier crimes is in short, unconscionable. One of the major issues I have is when people with husbands/boyfriends/etc in prison balk about living conditions after creating a vicious murder is especially hurtful. Supporters that would do anything and everything to keep these murderers alive, and even be released is also personally hurtfull. That is my personal philosophy on the Death Penalty issue.
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Post by CCADP on May 10, 2005 12:08:26 GMT -5
I am so sorry to hear of your loss; especially of a child makes it even more horrible.
I am sorry if you feel that the support of people like CCADP; the European Union, the Vatican, the United Nations, etc makes it more hurtful to the families.
I can promise you that killers who are not sentenced to death (ie those doing life WITHOUT parole;) are ignored by all of these groups and human rights activists; and if there were no death sentences; there would be no webpages; and no international concern; and people accused of committing horrible acts against children would die in jail after years of isolation from society; with the attention of nobody except their close family members.
So; when there are no more death sentences; there will be no more CCADP webpages; we can get on to doing other things instead of spending all our time and money on other countries' problems; and the victims can be happy as murderers continue in obscurity. Every body happy (except the murderer; but thats ok)....
So - you guys are up first!
End the DP in the US and I will take down every page!
Tracy; CCADP
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Post by jj on May 10, 2005 14:39:42 GMT -5
Benty, I do understand your anger and not even going to try and make excuses for their is none. I do pray everyday for you and your family and your grandson.
Hopefully, you will take the time to listen to the family members here and see their pain too. Nothing is done intentionally to hurt you or any other victims family member. We all are just trying to survive and make sense of some horrible crimes. No one is making excuses for their loved ones in prison. They just love them and are trying to deal with what they have done. But, walking away from their loved one on death row does not mean that they condone their actions or that they have no sympathy or compassion for the victims or their family.
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Post by oztash on May 10, 2005 23:41:37 GMT -5
Benty As a mother of 6 young boys I can understand why you feel the way you do.... I cant imagine the pain you must be going through, and will continue to go through..
I am against the dp, but I believe that if someone does a crime they must pay....Iam for lwop.. I think that murdering a murderer is just making more victims, and not a solution to the problem..
Looking forward to getting to know you better. Tasha
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Post by Mo-DAWG on May 11, 2005 7:22:05 GMT -5
I am a 59 year old man, married for 37 years to my high school sweetheart. We have 3 grown children and 5 grandchildren. One was horrifically murdered by a homosexual pedophile. I am a Viet Nam combat veteran having served my country honorably for 4 years in the USMC. I have a degree in business management. I am an avid proponent of the death penalty as I believe the only true punishment for taking the life of an innocent person is to forfeit your own life. For family members of an innocent victim (especially a child) to listen to convicted murderers lie, make false claims on thier appeals and frivolous law suits and not to take responsibility for thier crimes is in short, unconscionable. One of the major issues I have is when people with husbands/boyfriends/etc in prison balk about living conditions after creating a vicious murder is especially hurtful. Supporters that would do anything and everything to keep these murderers alive, and even be released is also personally hurtfull. That is my personal philosophy on the Death Penalty issue. we´ve never been friends and most likely never will cuz our worlds are Worlds apart ..nevertheless i´d like to say "welcome to this board"...see both sides and maybe it helps ya understand both sides a little...maybe even this understanding will ease your own pain at least a very little bit..i wish you the very best..and i mean it!!!!!! sincerely Mo-DAWG
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Post by mustangsally on May 11, 2005 22:58:48 GMT -5
I am so sorry for your loss .The loss of anyone is hard but even more hearbreaking when it is a child. I am so glad to see that you have joined us and I look forward to getting to know you. I believe it is important to get feedback from all involved whether it is a MVS , or a inmates family because it gives everyone something to think about. It lets everyone see it from all sides . I am against the DP , I have a loved one on DR but I totally feel for all involved, victims and their family as well. I believe in the saying " I may not agree with what you say but I defend to my death your right to say it "
Ok I am at a loss here . I hope I got that quote right.
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Post by Carolleo on May 12, 2005 0:39:11 GMT -5
Bently- My heartfelt sympathy & condolences for you and your family-what a devasting loss. I can totally understand your point of view and would like to share mine also; My feelings are against murder-whether by an individual or the government. When we take a life in revenge for the taking of a life, what lesson is learned? Only that it is ok to kill. I believe that life without parole (LWOP) is by far the way to handle these type of offenders-theyhave the rest of their God given life to live in a 6x9 cell, with no outside contact, no one to talk to except a guard and family members on occassions-they are left to themselves...hopefully to think about what they have done. I cant imagine going through everyday in a situation as that, with all those images and thoughts in my head & heart. That is quite a punishment. Again, to take a life because a life has been taken is wrong..we are not the judge & jury here...that is up to GOD. My sincerest sympathy to you, you and yours will be in my prayers. Blessings~ Carol
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Post by tulla63 on May 12, 2005 2:48:26 GMT -5
Hi Benty!
I'm glad to see you chose to be a member of this board. I have 2 children myself, and knowing how prescious they are to me, it's impossible for me not to understand your pain and anger.
I realize that we will probably not ever agree about the issues that are being discussed in this board, but I'm glad you signed on and hopefully, you will listen to what others say also, and consider what we are saying rather than brush it off as worthless.
As you: Many loved ones - as parents, siblings, friends and others of people on the row are actually experiencing the same as you do. They have also been victimized by having been separated from their loved ones to no choice of their own. Such a person have perhaps killed somebody to end up on the row, but please bear in mind that their mothers, fathers, and siblings weren't asked either. They are as victimized as you are. In addition to that, many of them are forced to live with the shame of having a close one executed.
I hope you will - by reading many of the postings here, see that there are victims on both sides and that all the death penalty actually does, is to create more victims, as it cannot (UNFORTUNATELY) bring your son back.
To sign on here was a brave thing for you to do, and I admire that courage. I am - as the rest of those who responded to you - very sorry for your meaningless loss!
I hope that understanding the fact that there are many, many on this board who aren't supporting the actions of a murderer anymore than you do, most of us do not just think that a person isn't worth more than the worst of his actions, and we also see that there are innocent victims on the other side too.
I am glad you came! And I hope you will at least heal to some extent from your horrific loss.
Best wishes for you and your family,
Turid
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Post by moghirl on May 12, 2005 19:15:13 GMT -5
Dear Benty, pleased to meet you, you are most welcome here and i admire you for joining. I do hope in doing so ,you are searching for something which might help ease your pain albeit in a minute way and i pray that through being here on this board you find solace where you least expected it. Being a widow with a 14 year old daughter my heart goes out to you for the horrific loss of your grandson, was it?What happened to you is every parents worst possible nightmare and it's so difficult to know what to say to you without sounding cliched but you can be assured of my and i'm sure everyone else's utmost respect whilst debating the issue of capital punishment. Nobody wants you to be hurt anymore than you already have been. I tend to think that locking someone up for the rest of their entire life, with no possibility of parole, is the best alternative to the death penalty, in that nature determines when life ends,not man, and thats as it should be. Peace be with you, Love Mo.
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