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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 4, 2005 5:22:47 GMT -5
Of course, yes, Camus! As I said also in another post, always dealing with crimes, laws and society, i would reccomend to read " of crimes and punishment" by Cesare Beccaria, Italy, 1764. I think there, it's the origin about european point of view on capital punishment and laws aplication. hugssssss oh yes Ela, Cesare Beccaria is another great one to mention and should be read... love Mo-DAWG |
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Post by truth1 on Jun 4, 2005 10:08:52 GMT -5
before everyone jumps down my throat, please hear me out. My propsal would be that we televise executions for a year. After a year of letting the citizenry witness the punishment that is being carried out in their name, we would then take a public vote on whether to have the DP. This would settle the debate once and for all on what the people want. If executions were broadcasted, I honestly do not know whether people would be appalled or desensitized. I do think if one supports the DP, one should view at least one execution. If most people could not bear to witness the punishment they support, I would be fine with abolition. It may work. After all, the photos of the electrocution of Allen Davis put an end to the electric chair in Florida. |
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Post by mustangsally on Jun 4, 2005 10:38:33 GMT -5
Injector use to be very much against the death penalty and has made this statement many times.. as an anti and pro.. I think it's a good idea... if they want to support the death penalty they should see at least one execution.. I believe then people wouldnt be so quick to support it. Pam I agree with you there .I feel people should be made aware of what they are supporting or not supporting . Our tax dollars do pay for these executions . I remember reading somewhere about a prosecutor who went to the execution of a man he put there. His believed " If I am able to help convict and put a man to death ,then I need to be able to stand there and watch them complete the sentence." Even though I don't agree with his stand ,being for the DP ,I have to kind of respect him for actually following it through . How many prosecutors and governors would actually watch someone being put to death? |
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Post by mikebook on Jun 4, 2005 10:45:28 GMT -5
It may stop it, but I am not sure. The lethal injection procedure seems very clinical, so people would see it on tv and say that was not so bad. Think about it. If you have ever seen surgery the procedure is similar. People may actually demand that it speed up.
Please do think about this idea before it happens....
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Post by KRCScot on Jun 4, 2005 10:47:24 GMT -5
Most people would probably be offended. People want this "punishment" so long as its not in their faces. I think its a good idea personally also. And I also think that the prosecutors who go after the Death penalty and the Governor who signs the death warrants should be there by law at every execution they go for. No use doing half the job is there  Maybe they wouldnt be so keen to sign warrants.?? |
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Post by catskillz on Jun 4, 2005 11:00:22 GMT -5
I don't think, regardless of the what the effect is, a descision should be made based on a television broadcast of an execution. There is much more to the issue than just this, so if something is televised, i think it should be a complete, factual and independant coverage of every case in its whole. I mean everything.
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Post by dave on Jun 4, 2005 11:12:20 GMT -5
It bothers me when I hear in the news that someyone was executed. I could just imagine how much it would bother me if I actually saw one myself on tv. Don't get me wrong though I do feel if these people have killed someyone they should be punished for it. I think locking them up for the rest of their lives in a place where they could'nt hurt anyone else would be just fine. As for this becoming a reality, I don't see this happening anytime soon.
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Post by catskillz on Jun 4, 2005 11:16:31 GMT -5
People aren't easily shocked anymore. Those in the field like the prosecutors and governors know what is happening. People that are against the DP because they don't know the practice of the system will gain nothing from viewing an execution. People who are pro dp will likely not be affected by viewing an execution on television. I agree with mike on not ovreestimating the effect, television nowadays doesn't seem that confronting anymore because it is still happening 'on tv'. The LI process itself seems peacefull, unlike electrocution, hanging, fire squad etc. I think people will use that as a pro rather than a con, better educate them about the medical and scientifical research on LI, for example.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 4, 2005 11:53:14 GMT -5
It may stop it, but I am not sure. The lethal injection procedure seems very clinical, so people would see it on tv and say that was not so bad. Think about it. If you have ever seen surgery the procedure is similar. People may actually demand that it speed up. Please do think about this idea before it happens.... well as soon as people knew the truth and got honestly educated about this seemingly "peaceful" procedure of executing they might scorn the states for finding out what reality is..... (except for some perverts who would enjoy to find out of course.....wondering if those should think about the possibility if their "passion" is kind of necrophilia... "of course" it´s not........ it´s just those peoples sense of "justice"...isn´t it??...hehehehe) Mo-DAWG |
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Post by KRCScot on Jun 4, 2005 17:53:07 GMT -5
If people arent easily shocked these days why didnt Bush go to the exections he was invited to and had signed the death warrant for? Why then is it all so secret? If this is a "good" thing then why is it hidden like it is?
If people saw what happened to someone on E day a lot of people would change their minds. I would go as far as filming their last 24 hours EVERYTHING. including the final farewells with family.
If the public vote for it then they should see what they vote for. I dont have a problem with that!
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 4, 2005 17:58:07 GMT -5
If people arent easily shocked these days why didnt Bush go to the exections he was invited to and had signed the death warrant for? Why then is it all so secret? If this is a "good" thing then why is it hidden like it is? If people saw what happened to someone on E day a lot of people would change their minds. I would go as far as filming their last 24 hours EVERYTHING. including the final farewells with family. If the public vote for it then they should see what they vote for. I dont have a problem with that! its just what Albert Camus wrote about it....... and i tell ya what.... they make a secret out of it cuz they WANT people to believe this DP thing was "justice"...but if people saw the real story and got EDUCATED about the DP-machinery they´d kick some politicians in the ass and scorn this "Justice"... Mo-DAWG |
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Post by jj on Jun 4, 2005 17:59:47 GMT -5
I also feel that everyone, from the jury on up that votes, signs for the execution needs to be there to watch. If they believe in it, then they need to see what they are believing in.
I bet Perry wouldn't believe in the DP much if he had to wittness each and every execution he signed off on. But no, he signs the papers then goes out to dinner.
Out of sight,..... out of mind
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Post by injector on Jun 4, 2005 18:08:42 GMT -5
If people arent easily shocked these days why didnt Bush go to the exections he was invited to and had signed the death warrant for? Why then is it all so secret? If this is a "good" thing then why is it hidden like it is? If people saw what happened to someone on E day a lot of people would change their minds. I would go as far as filming their last 24 hours EVERYTHING. including the final farewells with family. If the public vote for it then they should see what they vote for. I dont have a problem with that! To be fair, I would also air details of his horrible crime and information about his victims. Crime scene photos are certainly more grusome than a sterilized lethal injection. |
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 4, 2005 18:18:55 GMT -5
To be fair, I would also air details of his horrible crime and information about his victims. Crime scene photos are certainly more grusome than a sterilized lethal injection. yes... sounds fair to give the people the WHOLE package and leave nothing out....up to now they only tend to give people the details and sometimes pics on crimes...give them the rest of the story too...only people who get 100% informed can get a REAL opinion...everything else would be manipulative...as it is now Mo-DAWG |
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Post by jojo29 on Jun 4, 2005 22:55:45 GMT -5
I still don't know. I mean I really thing the general public would see it as a TV show and not a live news type event. I think that is just how our society is.
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