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Post by nessynou on Aug 12, 2006 3:08:44 GMT -5
Pumpkinpie,
I am asking the same question. I thought that PND and PPD were exactly the same thing, just different names.
Ness
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Post by legallybrunette on Aug 13, 2006 6:54:35 GMT -5
Post Natal Depression may possibly be the same as the post partum you refer to, as the expression commonly used in England?? I had a client some years ago whose divorce turned ugly as she lost custody of her 5 children - she'd had them in quick succession from age 19 and ended up a complete wreck emotionally. There wasn't much I could do to present positive submissions when she kept neglecting the kids. I doubt it can be entirely healthy for the human body to take on that kind of intense surge of hormone level repeatedly and then be expected to snap back to normality straight after!! I bet if guys had to go through all that discomfort, pain and mental confusion time and again, there'd be a massive drop in the world population!! Not sure if it is the same in the US but here in England, time and again we've seen evidence that on balance, men killing women due to diminished responsibility, end up getting shorter sentences than women committing the same crimes against a man.
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Post by skyloom on Aug 16, 2006 9:11:23 GMT -5
I don't know, I hear what you say on both sides but I do feel that those who are so mentally ill and have been identified as such, should be more closely monitored in relation to childcare whether in relation to their own kids or others'. Andrea Yates and her husband were counselled to not have more children. Her husband wanted another child, and their family, their "clergy person," and their "church friends" encouraged her to submit to her husband. Already fragile and isolated, she believed she had no where to turn. Too bad we can't remove abused wives from families.
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Post by skyloom on Aug 16, 2006 9:23:02 GMT -5
It's one thing to be suicidal, but to want to kill your own children or any child is unthinkable. I cant even imagine how anyone could have the frame of mind to do that. Be thankful that you have never had that "frame of mind." To think of killing yourself is every bit as mentally ill as to think of killing your children. Why would you think that mentally ill people who harm themselves are somehow any more or less mentally ill than the ones that harm others, including their children?
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Post by gemma20 on Aug 16, 2006 13:58:30 GMT -5
as a sufferer of pnd/ppd i have got to say im sure she didnt have the intention of killing her kids.the thoughts when suffering are beyond belief and im sure she is suffering more now that her kids are gone and she is on dr for doing something when mentally ill surely she would be better off somewhere where they can give her the help she needs
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Post by legallybrunette on Aug 16, 2006 16:35:34 GMT -5
The senior partner of my firm is married to a mild mannered lady who happens to be a medical doctor of some 25 years standing. They have only the one son aged 21 now and I wondered why they never had any more children. Apparently, I found out some years ago, after she'd given birth, she became completely psychotic and tried to stick a knitting needle into her baby's belly button and had to be restrained and hospitalised for a year under heavy medication and supervision. A year on, with the right support and treatment, she suddenly snapped out of it and her chemical imbalance righted itself. She is completely normal and a wonderful mother. She has continued in medical practice and really sympathises with others' distress. It really can happen to anyone.
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