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Post by pollypolly on Jul 29, 2006 12:20:35 GMT -5
Hello All A couple of days ago I caught a glimps of a new story about some lady who strangled all 5 children and was found not guilty. It was hard to get the whole story as my babies were crying for their dinner but I think she was sentenced to death previously and had the sentence overturned  Can someone tell me the name of this lady and maybe post a link on the case? Thankyou Jo |
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jul 29, 2006 22:47:44 GMT -5
She didn't strangle her five children, she drowned them in the bathtub. And her name is Andrea Yates. She was never sentenced to death. She was found guilty, and was suppose to serve a life sentence in prison. But she just got a new trial, I guess because she is extremely mentally sick, so she will now be serving a life sentence in a mental hospital. Yeah, she's sick alright, no doubt about that! My opinion on this case is not a nice one, so I'm not gonna say anymore.
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Post by pollypolly on Jul 30, 2006 2:14:17 GMT -5
Thankyou for that, its hard with screaming babies to catch what is said on tv..and yep its bloody disgusting what she did ... I wont say anymore about it either.  Cheers |
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Post by Alyce on Jul 31, 2006 22:01:28 GMT -5
Guys....Just remember she was "ILL". I know it was a disgusting "ACT", But.....this woman was on medications because her DR and her family knew there was a problem!! She was taken off her med's, everyone around her knew she would have these thoughts without her med's and with everything they knew from her past with PPD they chose to leave her alone with those children. I believe that if this Lady was kept on here medications and got the treatment she so in deed needed those 5 "Angels" would be here today!!
I wish Ms.Yates the best,just think this woman lives with what she had done for the rest of her life.
Bless All
Alyce
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Post by legallybrunette on Aug 3, 2006 7:33:58 GMT -5
I don't know, I hear what you say on both sides but I do feel that those who are so mentally ill and have been identified as such, should be more closely monitored in relation to childcare whether in relation to their own kids or others'. I would find it easier to forgive someone like that their sins, if they tried to hurt themselves as much as they hurt those small defenceless beings. Does anyone have information as to whether the woman hurt herself in anyway?
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Post by Alyce on Aug 3, 2006 12:24:13 GMT -5
Um yeah...she hurt herself most of all....she killed her babies!! She will forever HURT!!
Bless All
Alyce
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Post by pumpkinpie on Aug 3, 2006 13:08:11 GMT -5
I don't know, I hear what you say on both sides but I do feel that those who are so mentally ill and have been identified as such, should be more closely monitored in relation to childcare whether in relation to their own kids or others'. I would find it easier to forgive someone like that their sins, if they tried to hurt themselves as much as they hurt those small defenceless beings. Does anyone have information as to whether the woman hurt herself in anyway? Yes, I heard that after her 4th or 5th child she was put in a mental hospital because she was trying to commit suicide. It's one thing to be suicidal, but to want to kill your own children or any child is unthinkable. I cant even imagine how anyone could have the frame of mind to do that. |
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Post by happyhaddock on Aug 3, 2006 15:26:19 GMT -5
Yes, I heard that after her 4th or 5th child she was put in a mental hospital because she was trying to commit suicide. It's one thing to be suicidal, but to want to kill your own children or any child is unthinkable. I cant even imagine how anyone could have the frame of mind to do that. There was a guy in Eastern Europe who cut off his own penis to win a bet (Jay Leno). Apparently he was a heavy gambler (I couldn't help wondering if it was a double or nothing bet). And he wasn't insane (I assume). My only question - if Andrea isn't crazy, who is? Every time they dope her up to the point where she becomes sane she remembers what she did and goes crazy again. |
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Post by pumpkinpie on Aug 3, 2006 22:27:53 GMT -5
Yes, I heard that after her 4th or 5th child she was put in a mental hospital because she was trying to commit suicide. It's one thing to be suicidal, but to want to kill your own children or any child is unthinkable. I cant even imagine how anyone could have the frame of mind to do that./quote]There was a guy in Eastern Europe who cut off his own penis to win a bet (Jay Leno). Apparently he was a heavy gambler (I couldn't help wondering if it was a double or nothing bet). And he wasn't insane (I assume). Do you agree with the verdict, Charlie? I logged onto the fratpack website!!!!!  My only question - if Andrea isn't crazy, who is? Every time they dope her up to the point where she becomes sane she remembers what she did and goes crazy again. |
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Post by pumpkinpie on Aug 3, 2006 22:47:17 GMT -5
Sorry, I have no idea why that just happened. Do you agree with the verdict, Charlie? I logged onto the fratpack website you mentioned in the debate section!! But you are not the DJ with a talk show? Your name is just Charlie Tuna, right? Don't worry, I'm not gonna look you up or anything. You cant find out much with just a persons first and last name, unless you know the state they live in, and you don't have to tell me that. It's just nice to know your name is Charlie. |
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Post by happyhaddock on Aug 9, 2006 23:48:04 GMT -5
Sorry, I have no idea why that just happened. Do you agree with the verdict, Charlie? I logged onto the fratpack website you mentioned in the debate section!! But you are not the DJ with a talk show? Your name is just Charlie Tuna, right? Don't worry, I'm not gonna look you up or anything. You cant find out much with just a persons first and last name, unless you know the state they live in, and you don't have to tell me that. It's just nice to know your name is Charlie. No, my name isn't really Charlie. I'm just going with the 'fish motif'. Yes, that was finally the right verdict. There are saner people than her living over steam grates and talking to invisible aliens. |
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Post by legallybrunette on Aug 11, 2006 8:41:00 GMT -5
Reading through the postings, seems the lady who killed her kids, didn't manage to do as thorough a job on herself if she stopped short of ending her own life. Still think that if a person is able to exercise sufficient control so as to preserve their ability to draw breath, then they are not as completely insane as one might assume ; clearly the preservation of one's own life being a basic human instinct of the totally SANE, kicks in just in time.
That said, when I was suffering from post natal depression some 7 years ago and without the sympathetic support of my impatient spouse or of my family doctor, I kind of lost all sense of motherly gentility for a while there and can honestly say that my attitude towards my toddler when she was sick, was pretty cold and unfeeling. It was more about self preservation and concentrating on ME. I think insanity makes the human condition an essentially selfish one.
Is it still the case that a sentence of death is avoided where insanity is proven at sentencing stage?
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Post by Alyce on Aug 11, 2006 16:59:33 GMT -5
Hey Legally.....Great Post!! Alot of people still don't understand PND,I think thats why alot of the world don't understand the uneasy feelong that come with this disease.....or isn't it a disease I am not sure what it is considered. But anyway great post!
Bless All
Alyce
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Post by legallybrunette on Aug 11, 2006 18:08:36 GMT -5
Thanks Alyce. I agree that PND is pretty misunderstood. I guess it gets bracketed in with PMT!! I wish I could turn back the clock and knew then, what i know now- I'd do things so differently. Hindsight is possibly the most annoying thing in the world!! 
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Post by pumpkinpie on Aug 11, 2006 21:38:45 GMT -5
I've heard of post partum depression, - which occurs after you have a baby. But what is post natal depression? I've never heard of that.
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