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Post by kathy on Feb 15, 2006 22:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by Whyspurr on Feb 15, 2006 23:29:31 GMT -5
Laci must have been a wonderful wife, Christmas morning, she's 7 months prego, and she has no problem with Scott going fishing 90 miles away, gee, when my wife was that pregnant, she wouldnt let me go anywhere. that is a loving wife, not worried about getting to moms on time, or getting the fruit basket, gonna bake cookies, walk the dog, and clean and set up the house for Christmas, then to walk the dog like 9 blocks past the house of the elderly woman who saw her out of her kitchen window, where do women find the strength? it's amazing...and to find out her husband has been cheating on her, and is okay with it, shame she got killed, i would have loved to have my wife meet her....well, i'm sure the truth will come out eventually, and Scott can go home.... Okay... I just have to say here... not all women are clingy and demanding. There are a lot of us who are quite independent. My ex-husband was fishing with his buddies in Mexico over the week of my birthday. Did I care? No... and I was working anyway... Don't judge what things like that mean to anyone but you. Because you really don't know. And don't presume to know how you would deal with the infidelity of your spouse until you walk in those shoes. Because trust me... you do not know how you would handle it until you are there.
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Post by Whyspurr on Feb 15, 2006 23:36:48 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that someone would mention the name Sharon Rocha on a board supporting the person convicted of killing her daughter, innocence, is neither here nor there. Only Scott and God know the truth, and of course Laci! Fact is Scott was convicted and he will eventually die by the death penalty. If you want to do something great for Scott, make him a believer. I know most of you do not believe that Jesus Christ is your lord and savior, and will ignore all of this. However! Give Scott a message of truth and hope, tell him to ask for forgiveness, so that when he meets his just fate, he will have the knowledge and power of knowing he has eternal life with Jesus waiting on him. And, So that Angels can walk him down that hall and hold his hand as he goes. Just like I know Angels held his sweet baby Conner, as he went. Give Scott a message every person deserves to here, the message of Jesus Christ! Sharon wrote a book... Sharon does interviews... Sharon has made no attempt to keep her name out of it... there is no disrespect in speaking of her here at all... Fact is... Scott has been convicted Fact is... you have no way of knowing what his ultimate fate is as long as there is still an appeals process in this country... Fact is... you don't have the slightest idea about Scott's faith or the faith of any person who posts on this board... But thanks for sharing yours... and your obvious judgement and 'conviction' of us with nothing to base it upon. Jesus must be so proud.
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Post by SooperTrooper on Feb 16, 2006 0:02:03 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that someone would mention the name Sharon Rocha on a board supporting the person convicted of killing her daughter, innocence, is neither here nor there. Only Scott and God know the truth, and of course Laci! Fact is Scott was convicted and he will eventually die by the death penalty. If you want to do something great for Scott, make him a believer. I know most of you do not believe that Jesus Christ is your lord and savior, and will ignore all of this. However! Give Scott a message of truth and hope, tell him to ask for forgiveness, so that when he meets his just fate, he will have the knowledge and power of knowing he has eternal life with Jesus waiting on him. And, So that Angels can walk him down that hall and hold his hand as he goes. Just like I know Angels held his sweet baby Conner, as he went. Give Scott a message every person deserves to here, the message of Jesus Christ! Wow, you sure do have a lot of "facts" that seem iffy at best. Fast is, until his appeals are exhausted and the needle is in his arm and he is pronounced dead? There are a number of things that could alter your "fact" And last time I checked, this board appeared to be a board supporting *discussions* surrounding the death penalty, and various cases that involve it. Discussions with responses both from the pro and con side of events. Discussions both on judgments and carried out or overturned executions. Discussions surrounding both the victim's families as well as the persons convicted and their families. So why wouldn't a post regarding her be appropriate here? You know, you remind me a lot of the religious hypocrites that populate the south's Christan population. Those that use the bible as a weapon rather than a tool of their faith. Those that read the words of god as interpreted by man and use them to pass judgment on another. Those that attempt to claim superiority by standing upon their faith, rather than wearing it as a cloak of humility and compassion, as is taught in the bible. You know, it's a dangerous thing to make snap decisions based on limited knowledge. For instance, someone could surmise that you are an ignorant religious hypocrite with marginal tendencies towards illiteracy given your inability to properly use words like your, you're and here and hear, based on your responses to this thread. Fortunately, the faith I choose to worship affords me the compassion to hope that you are just hindered by your blind faith, and that perhaps there is hope for you one day to actually read the texts that you cling to, rather than just holding them up as a mace upon those you feel deserve your judgment. Some how, I'm fairly certain, god did not intend for his words to be used as a tool of your self serving wrath. Especially when they are so obviously wielded with such clouded comprehension.
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Post by scott2bfree on Feb 16, 2006 8:00:21 GMT -5
ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT THIS DEAL IS .......~~~~~
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Post by scott2bfree on Feb 16, 2006 8:11:34 GMT -5
~~~~~~~~~FREE SCOTT~~~~~~~~~~ I will never believe that he had something to do with it. I too have been a supporter of Scott's...I believe one day he will be exonerated! ''There is not enough evidence''. Good luck Scott, Jackie, Lee, Joe, Don, Mark, Janey, and Susan....MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY...
They had their tunnel vision eyes right on Scott... who better to convict than the one they know that people hated ''because of the media''.
What if all cases were like this.... everyone BIAS,,, WHERE WOULD WE BE??? Thanks Lisa S in NC
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Post by kathy on Feb 17, 2006 1:45:49 GMT -5
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Post by Maggie on Feb 18, 2006 14:05:29 GMT -5
Martina you hit the nail right on the head!! There is NO Discussion on this thread. You are either for Scott or you are deleted or the thread is locked. It's the My Way Or The Highway thing. Simple as that! Kathy, With all due respect, because I like you, this is not an area for people to discuss Scott's guilt. His supporters do not believe that he is guilty. It's an area to discuss Scott's innocence and appeal progress. It's a place for SUPPORTERS of Scott Peterson, and his family. Would you think of going into the Jimmy Dennis section here and blasting Jimmy or his supporters? Would you think of going in there so you could plead the case that Jimmy is guilty? Have you ever gone in there and told Tracy she is being too one sided? I feel the same way about this section as she does about that section. I'm sorry Kathy, because I don't think you've had bad intentions towards me, but I've endured enough criticism in this area and my tolerace is getting low. If you don't support Scott (or anyone who doesn't support Scott) there are plenty of other areas on this message board. I'm just asking that you (and others) respect the fact that this is an advocacy section for Scott and his supporters.
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Post by CCADP on Feb 18, 2006 18:25:39 GMT -5
Maggie is exactly right here.
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Post by kathy on Feb 19, 2006 4:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by pamela15 on Mar 7, 2006 22:35:16 GMT -5
When looking like a case such as the Peterson's, we need to approach all the facts with an open mind. We need to imagine somehow the emotion and complete life destroying effect the disappearance of Laci had on everyone close to her. Scott fishing on the morning of Dec 24, not everyones idea of a "proper" edict around the holidays but we are not witness to or do we know the schedule/routine of the Peterson home. We also need to acknowledge that As Sharon Rocha did lose her daughter and grandchild, we need to respect the fact that Lee and Jackie Peterson lost a grandchild as well. In my opinion, Scott was convicted on the basis of adultery not guilt, as for Sharon's opinion, we need to address the devastation and loss from a mother's point of view. Only a person in her situation can understand the magnitude of the pain she would have suffered, only to be presented with a one sided view and a gentle push to "see what makes sense". The revelation of the affair with Amber Frey gave a weak motive but when presented enough and manipulatively tied to "so called facts" it would wear on anyone in a grieving and desperate frame of mind. At this point of the case, what anyone "thinks" really is what convicted a man with no evidence against him and who is sitting on Death Row as a result of an unfair investigation and trial. When you look at "ALL ' the evidence, Scott should not be locked away awaiting execution. Bottom line, being guilty of adultery does not mean you're guilty of murder.
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Post by skyloom on Mar 15, 2006 12:30:33 GMT -5
When looking like a case such as the Peterson's, we need to approach all the facts with an open mind. We need to imagine somehow the emotion and complete life destroying effect the disappearance of Laci had on everyone close to her. Scott fishing on the morning of Dec 24, not everyones idea of a "proper" edict around the holidays but we are not witness to or do we know the schedule/routine of the Peterson home. We also need to acknowledge that As Sharon Rocha did lose her daughter and grandchild, we need to respect the fact that Lee and Jackie Peterson lost a grandchild as well. In my opinion, Scott was convicted on the basis of adultery not guilt, as for Sharon's opinion, we need to address the devastation and loss from a mother's point of view. Only a person in her situation can understand the magnitude of the pain she would have suffered, only to be presented with a one sided view and a gentle push to "see what makes sense". The revelation of the affair with Amber Frey gave a weak motive but when presented enough and manipulatively tied to "so called facts" it would wear on anyone in a grieving and desperate frame of mind. At this point of the case, what anyone "thinks" really is what convicted a man with no evidence against him and who is sitting on Death Row as a result of an unfair investigation and trial. When you look at "ALL ' the evidence, Scott should not be locked away awaiting execution. Bottom line, being guilty of adultery does not mean you're guilty of murder. I think you've stated that very well, Pamela15. I also think that the husband is almost always the first person that they look at. Frankly, Scott doesn't seem to have been the best of husbands... not because he went fishing on Christmas Eve but because he was seeing other women after he was married. Too bad, because not only was that a bad thing to do, but it made him look guilty and gave investigators a plausible motive to explore. Now, two things: There are reported murders every day. Why do you all think that this case drew so much national attention? What can we do to insist that police, detectives, lawyers, and everyone involved will look past what seems to be the obvious answer to a crime and work to discover all the evidence... even when presenting that evidence might make it more difficult for a jury to come to a decision?
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Post by happyhaddock on May 23, 2006 15:27:13 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that someone would mention the name Sharon Rocha on a board supporting the person convicted of killing her daughter, innocence, is neither here nor there. Only Scott and God know the truth, and of course Laci! Fact is Scott was convicted and he will eventually die by the death penalty. ... Give Scott a message every person deserves to here, the message of Jesus Christ! Didn't all of the jurors take an oath (on a bible?) to judge Peterson fairly and give him the benefit of the doubt? Can any of them tell us: - Where exactly was Laci killed?
- When exactly was Laci killed?
- Why exactly was Laci killed?
- What exactly was the way that Laci was killed?
Can any of them show me even one molecule of evidence that points to guilt and is incapable of innocent explanation? If not, of what value is their oath and their belief? Who would Jesus execute?
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Post by happyhaddock on May 23, 2006 15:39:41 GMT -5
... Now, two things: There are reported murders every day. Why do you all think that this case drew so much national attention? What can we do to insist that police, detectives, lawyers, and everyone involved will look past what seems to be the obvious answer to a crime and work to discover all the evidence... even when presenting that evidence might make it more difficult for a jury to come to a decision? See whitewomeninperil.com/Compare these two cases: Accused | Gilberto Cano | Scott Peterson |
[/b] [tr][td]Prosecutors[/td][td]Distaso, Fladager and Harris[/td][td]Distaso, Fladager and Harris[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Defence Attorneys[/td][td]Kirk McAllister[/td][td]Kirk McAllister, Mark Geragos[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Victim[/td][td]Martha Moreno[/td][td]Laci Peterson[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Race of Victim[/td][td]Hispanic[/td][td]White[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Murder Weapon[/td][td]Knife[/td][td]Unknown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Manner of Death[/td][td]Stabbing fetus then strangling mother[/td][td]Unknown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Crime Scene[/td][td]Victim’s home[/td][td]Unknown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Time of Death Known[/td][td]Yes[/td][td]No[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Crime Scene Linked to Accused[/td][td]Yes[/td][td]No[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Intent to Murder Fetus[/td][td]Stabbed in belly three times[/td][td]None shown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Confession[/td][td]Yes[/td][td]No[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Evidence 1[/td][td]Bloody body found in her bed. [/td][td]None[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Evidence 2[/td][td]Knife wrapped in a bloody T-shirt.[/td][td]None[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Means[/td][td]Knife[/td][td]Unknown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Motive[/td][td]Insanity[/td][td]None[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Opportunity[/td][td]Yes[/td][td]No[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Premeditation[/td][td]Yes[/td][td]None shown[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Defence[/td][td]Insanity[/td][td]Innocence[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Sentence[/td][td]17 years[/td][td]Death[/td][/tr][/table] As for "making it more difficult for the jury to come to a decision" that was Distaso's and Fladager's modus operandi. See the case of Douglas S. Mouser, also tried by them with no evidence, also taking 5 months and also resulting in a conviction. In Cano's case, with an actual mountain of evidence, they did a plea deal claiming the 'mountain' wasn't tall enough! You figure it out.
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Post by happyhaddock on May 23, 2006 15:46:38 GMT -5
My final thoughts on this subject; I do not believe Scott Peterson should have been convicted, let alone given death, based on the evidence...In my heart, I think he did it, but screwed up with his actions afterwards...you can scream about tides, and how the baby washed ashore, and how if this happened, then scott is innocent, mother nature is not exact, I've seen what the ocean and the bays, etc can do or not do to a body(former search and rescue crewman,USCG).... but really everything sure does point to him, and NOBODY else....but i do agree, the verdict was incorrect...they should have squeezed him more, or waited a bit after the bodies washed ashore, to see if he would skip the country with the 10 grand in the car, the camping equipment, etc....what was that about? There were 2 men near my home who spent 18 years in jail based on a single eyewitness account, all because the driver made a u-turn, so i'm not unsympathatic to the innocents plight, i just believe he did do it...i understand why too........ Actually there is no evidence that 'points to Scott'. The evidence has giant neon signs flashing and blinking and pointing to the burglars - neon signs the MPD and the prosecutors covered up. There were plenty of possible suspects in this case - the only person who is positively excluded by the evidence is Scott Peterson.
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