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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 7:06:44 GMT -5
I notice there are a few fellow posters from prodp.com here....hello So been checking this board out as well as the site Man what a restrictive place
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 7:40:13 GMT -5
But it is an Anti DP site so oh well its all good
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Post by gill on Jun 8, 2005 8:25:39 GMT -5
I notice there are a few fellow posters from prodp.com here....hello So been checking this board out as well as the site Man what a restrictive place How is it restrictive?
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 8:31:17 GMT -5
If you go to other DP sites Antis and Pros can basically post , debate etc on any portion of the board they wish here pro's are restricted to one section only If this is a board that truly advocates LWOP they should be openminded and be willing to discuss or debate why their opponents do not agree with them
The DP issue much like the abortion issue will likely never be solved because both Pro and Anti sides have to many extremist factions who are closeminded and unwilling to listen
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Post by ela on Jun 8, 2005 8:34:58 GMT -5
this is basically becouse this is not a site for debating. This is, as I've said before, a site for support friends ond families of inmates... and for this reason you can imagine that we didn't contemplate any pro death penalty person who came here to look for support or to try to hel an inmate... Howver pro death penalty people came on here, they are welcome... since they respect what we try to do on here... and this is support for those who have olved ones on death row. For this reason we have an area for debates... just to not loose the original aim of this site.
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Post by gill on Jun 8, 2005 8:37:08 GMT -5
If you go to other DP sites Antis and Pros can basically post , debate etc on any portion of the board they wish here pro's are restricted to one section only If this is a board that truly advocates LWOP they should be openminded and be willing to discuss or debate why their opponents do not agree with them The DP issue much like the abortion issue will likely never be solved because both Pro and Anti sides have to many extremist factions who are closeminded and unwilling to listen We are very willing to listen. This section of the site is reserved for those Pros who mean to offend. This site is a Support site, not a debating club. There are many people who are very willing to debate with provocative Pros, but there are many people who, respectful of the name of the site, wish only to use this site as an information and support site. Very often antis are discussing their pen pals, when Pros jump in to offend and harrass antis for writing to these people in the first place. I'm afraid that noone should have to put up with that behaviour. In this section, Pros are free to say what they will; CCADP however did not create this site to allow Pros easy access to offend Antis. Unfortunately that happens all to often. Gill
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 8:47:07 GMT -5
Young lady I do respect what this site is about believe me i honestly do I may not agree with its purpose or goals but I do respect your right to do what you do
I worked for The Florida Department of Corrections for 14 years And even some of those years at the facility where the deed so to speak was done I was in attendence and participation at 21 Electrocutions in my time there and bore no malice to the men and women who had to sit in that chair I hated their crimes but that was another issue I used whatever compassion I could manage to help their tortured minds and souls in their final days
And I do sympathize with the families of these men and women almost as much as the familes of their victims
The people who make up the actual squad/s who perform executions by electrocution or lethal injection take noy joy in their duties and try their utmost to be professional and humane Its not an easy or enviable task
Every time I said a prayer for the souls that we had to send on and I remember every face And I will reflect that when my book about this subject is eventually published
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 8, 2005 8:54:43 GMT -5
Young lady I do respect what this site is about believe me i honestly do I may not agree with its purpose or goals but I do respect your right to do what you do I worked for The Florida Department of Corrections for 14 years And even some of those years at the facility where the deed so to speak was done I was in attendence and participation at 21 Electrocutions in my time there and bore no malice to the men and women who had to sit in that chair I hated their crimes but that was another issue I used whatever compassion I could manage to help their tortured minds and souls in their final days And I do sympathize with the families of these men and women almost as much as the familes of their victims The people who make up the actual squad/s who perform executions by electrocution or lethal injection take noy joy in their duties and try their utmost to be professional and humane Its not an easy or enviable task Every time I said a prayer for the souls that we had to send on and I remember every face And I will reflect that when my book about this subject is eventually published Thank you so much. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by ela on Jun 8, 2005 8:54:51 GMT -5
... I had just answered to your question... explaining why we have a thread for debates... thank you for your personal informations... but I would prefer to stay out from details.. ok? And I am sure you respect what we do. Why shouldn't you?
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 8, 2005 8:57:29 GMT -5
sir, you have a dangerous profession and I respect you for that.
I'm not brave enough to work in any prison.
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Post by gill on Jun 8, 2005 9:01:06 GMT -5
Young lady I do respect what this site is about believe me i honestly do I may not agree with its purpose or goals but I do respect your right to do what you do I worked for The Florida Department of Corrections for 14 years And even some of those years at the facility where the deed so to speak was done I was in attendence and participation at 21 Electrocutions in my time there and bore no malice to the men and women who had to sit in that chair I hated their crimes but that was another issue I used whatever compassion I could manage to help their tortured minds and souls in their final days And I do sympathize with the families of these men and women almost as much as the familes of their victims The people who make up the actual squad/s who perform executions by electrocution or lethal injection take noy joy in their duties and try their utmost to be professional and humane Its not an easy or enviable task Every time I said a prayer for the souls that we had to send on and I remember every face And I will reflect that when my book about this subject is eventually published My chief problem with the Death Penalty is that many on death row are innocent. My cousin served 15 years for murder, and then was proved innocent. If he lived in America, chances are he would have been executed. My second problem is the hypocricy of the American Justice System, where there are immigrant laws, age laws; My friend Efrain was taken off death row recently because he was 17 and not 18 when he did the crime. I thought execution circled around the healing of family members; hardly when it's by the book. I know that killing an offender sends out the message to people that it's ok to kill someone who offends you. I know that 2 wrongs don't make a right. I know that many of your Pros claim yourself to be God-fearing, yet isn't it only God who has the right to take life? Isn't it up to God to punish people, not mere humans? How hypocritical. At the same time, thank you for your respectful words. Not all Pros are like you. Hugs, Gill
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 9:16:30 GMT -5
Many Pros have not seen Men and Women die sir And neither have many antis
Electrocution is a very devastating proccess And I would wager that many on death row in the State of Florida thank whayever deity they believe in that it appears to be gone
I cannot go into details ( confidentiality and the like ) Nor do I wish to
The current DR inmates fight vigorously not to be executed , As is to be expected But I assure you with firsthand knowledge that each and every one of them that lose their fight are in some weird and twisted way thankfull that Florida now deploys Lethal Injection as its primary means of execution
DR Inmates were struck with fear and trembled at the mere mention of the Electric Chair Though may fear dieing Lethal Injection does not invoke that kind of sheer terror in them
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 8, 2005 9:21:05 GMT -5
Many Pros have not seen Men and Women die sir And neither have many antis Electrocution is a very devastating proccess And I would wager that many on death row in the State of Florida thank whayever deity they believe in that it appears to be gone I cannot go into details ( confidentiality and the like ) Nor do I wish to The current DR inmates fight vigorously not to be executed , As is to be expected But I assure you with firsthand knowledge that each and every one of them that lose their fight are in some weird and twisted way thankfull that Florida now deploys Lethal Injection as its primary means of execution DR Inmates were struck with fear and trembled at the mere mention of the Electric Chair Though may fear dieing Lethal Injection does not invoke that kind of sheer terror in them I've seen many die.....
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 9:30:04 GMT -5
Well then if you have sclcookie
Then you can see that many pros and antis debate and argue endlessly w/o really knowing the final means to the end I think that if even just one execution was televised Americans on both sides might have different outllooks for better or worse ..the next day
though personally it would probably not be a very good idea to televise such an event
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Post by sclcookie on Jun 8, 2005 9:40:36 GMT -5
Well then if you have sclcookie Then you can see that many pros and antis debate and argue endlessly w/o really knowing the final means to the end I think that if even just one execution was televised Americans on both sides might have different outllooks for better or worse ..the next day though personally it would probably not be a very good idea to televise such an event Richard Cartwright and I have changed many pro's views. We encouraged them to educate themselves about the justice system. You working in correctional facilities gives you an advantage to many people in see what really goes on. Some people are blinded and believe that the justice system is perfect. I'm sure you know better.
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