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Post by oztash on Sept 1, 2005 18:28:56 GMT -5
Janet Great post Tasha
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Post by judywaits4u on Sept 11, 2005 11:33:13 GMT -5
I only write to one woman on death row and when she was first introduced to me, I looked to find any proff of her guilt and I could not find it.
What I did find was the FDLE's refusal to take any DNA Evidence, Prosecutorial Misconduct, the only witness against her was involved in the organising of the murder (Give me a short sentence and I will tall you that God was the murderer, if you know what I mean) who took the same route after his crimes as his hero Judas, the aithorities were informed of this murder before it happened by a mafia insider and the defence lawyer was sent to prison for four and a half year for his illegal activity during her trial.
There was an irreverible error in the jury direction by Judge Watson and after spending three years thinking about it, he decided that the Penalty Phase was not right and has overturned it.
One day we shall get her a new trial and she will be found not guiulty.
Best wishes, Judy
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Post by kimorej on Sept 14, 2005 14:36:38 GMT -5
deleted....this is a support area.
Suzanne
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Sept 14, 2005 14:42:26 GMT -5
WELL I FEEL TO EACH IT OWN, I MEAN THE WAY I SEE IT THEY CANNOT DO sh*t FOR ME AND I DO NOT HAVE TO WRITE LETTERS TOO BUSY FOR THAT. TOO MANY FINE ASS MEN OUT HERE FOR THAT BULLsh*t naaaw Kimo..writing DR inmates doesnt mean looking for a man (my old man would bite my head off if i did...haha)....right some women got into relationship or marriage with DR inmates but thats not the majority of penpals..so please dont get things wrong here... Mo-DAWG
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Post by dio on Sept 20, 2005 2:37:39 GMT -5
Ah yes the MVS again.I have met several of these "special"folks over the past yr.I have tried hard to understand them and feel a tad of what they feel.Some are really great people,1 lady I met over on the pro board seemed to maintain herself well and seldom got into the "your disrespecting me"rut,she would have no clue I was referring to her if she read this,but I do respect her.However she does seem to be in a class by herself....LOL.I have saw it said numerous times that a homo killed my loved one so kill all homos,a guy sang a song after killing my loved one so ban the premiere metal group who wrote the song,and God forbid I forget...the "bucket of puke"(their words not mine) who killed my loved one didn't get the death penalty I think I'm gonna whine some more....LOL.Quite a collection huh?It is with regret that anyone's loved one must die at the hands of an out of control maniac,yet there comes a time I would think when we must draw a line of respect/disrespect.Obviously intelligent pros or MVS would not wish to kill all homo's or ban a music group,or whine.Nor would intelligence lead us to think that a letter is disrespectful.How many really think these letters say"I'm sorry you didn't kill more"?NONE I hope.How many ridicule the MVS?NONE I hope.....The game is simple.This is the net,people can say anything here,does anyone really think I am a multi millionaire rock singer.....LOL.My point is ignore the freaks,do your own thing and let them do theirs.There will always be a whiner,or a dumbass that favors genocide,or a fool that blames a entertainer,and YES there will always be a penpal.I would say ignore the freaks and fools,look instead for those like the one I mentioned who despite her support for the DP remains rationale in her hopes and goals.
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Post by janet on Sept 22, 2005 7:43:09 GMT -5
It was five years ago that I decided to begin writing to someone on death row. It was after careful thought, since the ongoing commitment can, at times, be painful. It came about after the realization that, although I had been anti-death penalty all my life, it wasn't enough to sign petitions, write letters of government officials, and the like. When looking within myself, I developed the sense that I had been detached from those 'real human beings' whose spend so many years on the row. I'd been afraid of becoming emotionally involved.
That changed on Christmas Eve, almost five years ago. I recall the night vividly.
Since then, I have become close to several men. It's been a mutual exchange of sharing the despair, joy, and humour of everyday life. Additionally, I've formed close relationships with their families.
They have given me far more than I could possibly return.
Although, at times, it's a painful journey, I've never regretted my decision to not simply "talk the talk but, also, walk the walk".
Janet
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Post by oztash on Sept 22, 2005 7:46:55 GMT -5
Janet Powerfull post. Thanks for sharing Tasha
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Post by CCADP on Oct 3, 2005 11:50:06 GMT -5
This from a 1st grade teacher in Illinois who; along with her husband; has been writing to Jimmy Dennis and working on his innocence campaign for half a decade : The first time I wrote Jimmy was in January of 2000. I threw the letter away. I was fearful about getting involved. I didn't know if I could trust the Internet information about Jimmy's case. Also, even though I was staunchly opposed to the death penalty, I was heavily influenced by the common perceptions in the U.S. of people on death row: What if he were some cold, calloused killer? What if I help him get off death row and he comes after me someday? These thoughts seem ludicrous to me now, but they were very real at the time. We have been trained to think of death row inmates as monsters, as people who aren't fully human, as a bunch of depraved serial killers. But when you visit death row, all you see are humans -- some guilty, some innocent, but all very much human beings. It wasn't until August of 2000 that I sent Jimmy my first letter. At the time I had no idea where that letter was about to take me, the journey on which I was about to embark. It wasn't much later at all that I began to seriously research Jimmy's case. I started gathering documents, thousands of pages of documents: the appeal brief, the trial transcript, numerous police statements made by witnesses. I traveled to the courthouse in Philadelphia for the first time in 2001. I had to know for myself that Jimmy was innocent. I couldn't proclaim this to the world unless I had done the necessary research. I'd hate to think about all the hours I spent pouring over the documents -- for several months I was nearly obsessive about it. I found that the evidence supporting Jimmy's innocence was so compelling, one had to wonder how it was that they even had a trial -- not to mention how Jimmy ended up on death row. I still can't believe it. I still can't believe that in the U.S. a person can get a death sentence with a case as ridiculously weak as that against Jimmy. But it has happened at an alarming rate: We now have over 120 people who have been released from death row. I have visited Jimmy several times, and exchanged countless letters with him. He is anything but the monster that I once feared. Jimmy loves his family deeply, and worries about them incessantly. His hope for freedom one day is tied directly to his passion for his family members -- his longing to be with them, his desire to share in their daily lives. Jimmy is a warm individual who always shows sincere interest in his friends, asking how they are doing, remembering details about their lives. Jimmy can be strong-willed and can dig in his heels, and sometimes I think I like this characteristic most of all because of my own strong-willed streak. It's that kind of strength that has helped him maintain some sanity and dignity in the midst of this mind-boggling madness, in the midst of a brutal world that would put him in a cell with a sentence of death hanging over his head for all these years, inspite of his obvious innocence. I once asked Jimmy how he has been able to cope. He told Jim (my hubby) and me that when he was in the Philadelphia county jail awaiting sentencing after being convicted, he contemplated many things, including writing "Innocent" in blood on the wall of the jail cell and killing himself. A jailer who apparently noted how distraught Jimmy was and who perhaps also had an inkling of Jimmy's complete innocence, took Jimmy aside and told him, "You know, in this life we all are given a hand of cards, and we have to play the hand that's dealt us." I don't suppose those words did much to comfort Jimmy, but they gave him the necessary framework through which he began to make decisions about his response to this tragedy. I can't imagine what it must be like to be charged, convicted and sentenced to die for a crime one didn't commit. I can't fathom it. I don't even like it when someone thinks I said something I didn't say, so what if people thought I killed someone I didn't kill? I would be devastated. As sensitive as Jimmy can be, I know this has hurt him as deeply as it would me. It also has to have been so disheartening to have his musical dreams stolen from him. Jimmy and his group, Sensation, had incredible potential, and at the time of Jimmy's trial, he was about to sign a singing contract. It's sad that Jimmy doesn't sing today; he refuses to sing on death row. I've never gotten to hear his singing voice. But I dream of a day when Jimmy will be released, of the day when he will have something to sing about. Surely freedom can't be too far away, surely the world's citizens won't allow the U.S. government to take his life. Surely justice is around the corner, and Jimmy will be singing soon. I can't wait.
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Post by lucyelastic1 on Oct 10, 2005 9:43:46 GMT -5
;D Hi, please excuse me for butting in the conversation and all that! but I have just started corresponding with a prisoner on death row. i want to send him some money (not much it has to be said cos i haven't got much). I live in the U.K. and he has sent me some numbers and stuff that I can use to send him some dosh however, i have contacted Western Union and they keep asking me for info that I don't have - can i ask is there anyone out there who sends money to houston in texas through Western Union and can give me some advice. all gratefully received. thanks
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Post by judywaits4u on Oct 10, 2005 12:18:10 GMT -5
;D Hi, please excuse me for butting in the conversation and all that! but I have just started corresponding with a prisoner on death row. i want to send him some money (not much it has to be said cos i haven't got much). I live in the U.K. and he has sent me some numbers and stuff that I can use to send him some dosh however, i have contacted Western Union and they keep asking me for info that I don't have - can i ask is there anyone out there who sends money to houston in texas through Western Union and can give me some advice. all gratefully received. thanks If you were really wanting to send anybody in an American Prison, you would know that only they can answer this question because there is no answer that covers the whole of the USA.
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Post by red on Oct 13, 2005 18:26:41 GMT -5
deleted....this is a support area. Suzanne Yup; SOOO many of us are the same way. When our friends first heard Dave and I were doing this just before we started CCADP they were all like; "WHAT ? ? ? "
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Oct 14, 2005 4:31:34 GMT -5
Yes, I'm sure they did. Perhaps they found that establishing "pen-pal" relationships with convicted murderers was not such a good idea. But I'm sure that through the years you have also established many pen-pal relationships with the loved ones of those that your new found pen-pal friends murdered. Right? Love, RED Yup; SOOO many of us are the same way. When our friends first heard Dave and I were doing this just before we started CCADP they were all like; "WHAT ? ? ? " let me reply to your post and let me give you MY experiences on that issue Red... : when i started my work i tried to give help and support to both sides ..i got to know the inmates first, then their families and then tried to work with the mvs as well ...what happened is that mvs refused my offer for help and support as soon as they knew i´m working on the inmates and inmates families side as well ... to make a long story short ... i had to retire from trying to be there and support both sides cuz the mvs saw kind of an enemy in me ...i had to find out that it´s just not possible to be there for BOTH sides ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by red on Oct 14, 2005 7:01:45 GMT -5
deleted....this is a support area. Suzanne Yes, I'm sure they did. Perhaps they found that establishing "pen-pal" relationships with convicted murderers was not such a good idea. But I'm sure that through the years you have also established many pen-pal relationships with the loved ones of those that your new found pen-pal friends murdered. Right? Love, RED let me reply to your post and let me give you MY experiences on that issue Red... : when i started my work i tried to give help and support to both sides ..i got to know the inmates first, then their families and then tried to work with the mvs as well ...what happened is that mvs refused my offer for help and support as soon as they knew i´m working on the inmates and inmates families side as well ... to make a long story short ... i had to retire from trying to be there and support both sides cuz the mvs saw kind of an enemy in me ...i had to find out that it´s just not possible to be there for BOTH sides ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Oct 14, 2005 7:21:35 GMT -5
Well, although I know for a fact that there are individuals who work with both the families of convicted death row inmates and the families of MVS, I find no fault in the clear frustration of MVS with individuals that attempt to give them support and then go back to the very people who are causing their anguish to give THEM support (whatever "support" for murderers means). You find it impossible to work for both sides because it is. Love, RED let me reply to your post and let me give you MY experiences on that issue Red... : when i started my work i tried to give help and support to both sides ..i got to know the inmates first, then their families and then tried to work with the mvs as well ...what happened is that mvs refused my offer for help and support as soon as they knew i´m working on the inmates and inmates families side as well ... to make a long story short ... i had to retire from trying to be there and support both sides cuz the mvs saw kind of an enemy in me ...i had to find out that it´s just not possible to be there for BOTH sides ... Mo-DAWG Red, the problem was not working with the inmates families as well as with the mvs ... the problem seemed to be me working with the mvs, the inmates familes and THE INMATES ....oh ok you´re wondering what this support for inmates is....for those i befriended i´m getting them good lawyers and private investigation on their cases since most of them have real bad state appointed lawyers and /or are very limited in their possibilities to pay for better defense, experts and investigation... ...Quote Red:" You find it impossible to work for both sides because it is." ...this sentence of yours turned out to be very very right.... it´s sad actually but i had to realize it´s very true.. Mo-DAWG
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Post by hotnosh on Oct 14, 2005 9:55:27 GMT -5
Mo-Dawg,,,,,the idea of you doing anything positive for inmates is likely to send someone as blinkered as RED into an apoplectic frenzy. He not only condones but would encourage the sending of letters to inmates, to persuade them to abandon their legal appeals. Thats the kind of weasel we're dealing with here. Ive crossed swords with this character before on this and numerous other subjects.
Yes youve attempted a very difficult balancing act and Im sure you were right to try. Im mindful of the suffering of MVS in the correspondence Ive entered into with inmates. I know for a fact RED is aware of instances where friends of inmates have sought to insult and offend MVS and is probably ready to tar all of us with friends on death row with that brush. Im sure it wouldnt apply to you or others on this board who are kind-hearted people, who would certainly never even consider abusing those who have already suffered intolerably.
RED perpetuates the myth that corresponding with inmates is a direct and calculated insult to MVS in itself, in which ( as with most things ) he is wrong. It is not.
His problem with death row inmates is that sentence of premature death is not enough. It is the ultimate punishment. But no, for RED and many like him, death is not enough. It has to be accompanied by constant villification and castigation, during an average eleven years in the subhuman conditions we know exist on all death rows. Yet the real hypocrisy of a creep like this, found elsewhere in his recent contributions here, is to argue the constitutional right of the victim be upheld to have those found guilty of murder, while ( as I alluded to earlier ), being quite prepared to encourage inmates to forego their constitutionally protected appeals. He just cannot have it both ways, although I have little doubt he will continue to try.
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