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Post by CCADP on May 15, 2005 13:03:33 GMT -5
treatment for WHAT??? POT???
this doesn't even make sense Mike. I don't understand what a pot smoker would need treatment for. Unless there are further issues; beyond being a pot smoker.
Here's the treatment every single person I know who has ever decided they were smoking too much pot used :
they stopped smoking so much.
And for those that decided that for some reason they don't want to smoke anymore...
they stop.
Just like if I decided I no longer want to wear blue shirts. Treatment wouldn't be necessary to stop; I just wouldn't buy them or put them on anymore.
Pot is not even a narcotic - by law or science. Its an unrefined plant product that has been used for thousands of years in many, many cultures.
there is no way to prove the silly claim that pot is a gateway drug. Show me 100 stories where a kid started with pot and ended up on heroin or crack or meth.
And I'll show you a thousand - no a MILLION - were they started with pot; and never ventured further into the world of 'drugs'.
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Post by catskillz on May 15, 2005 13:10:21 GMT -5
Pot is a gateway. Where I live, the problem is meth...cheap, vicious, and long lasting. Pot is a problem as well. People start to use other things, not just pot. That starts the cycle. Pot is not a gateway drug trust me! Here in Holland pot is legal, yet we have the least drug addicts in Europe! I smoke it Believe me i'll stay off harddrugs (including alcohol)! I'm not a dropout, no criminal, i got my BA's a full time job! ;D Not to forget one of the biggest addictive harddrug is alcohol, but i bet they didnt mention that in the folder! Try check the research on why cannabis was declared illegal in the US, all about economics nothing to do with it being 'drugs' Best, catz.
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Post by catskillz on May 15, 2005 13:15:15 GMT -5
Pot doesn't really make a person criminal or agressive, definately not after smoking. The claims from defendents blaming their actions on pot don't make any sense imo other than scapegoating. Alcohol, meth, coke, lsd.. yes these can cause one to do strange things.
Best, catz
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Post by mikebook on May 15, 2005 13:15:59 GMT -5
I am just saying what I saw them researching. I do not like the thought of someone high driving a car. I was hit by a guy that was both high and drunk on night in 1999. They had to cut me out of the car and fly me in a med-evac helicopter to make sure I lived. Scared the hell out of me. I had to go back to grad school with brused ribs and a sprained arm. I am still surprised I was not killed or hurt worse than I was.
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Post by CCADP on May 15, 2005 13:18:44 GMT -5
I'm so glad you made it without any permanent ill effects after that; Mike. wow!
I am a BIG anti drunk driving advocate....and I am sure you are aware that the pot wasn't needed; if he was drunk that would have been quite enough to cause the accident! smile...
catz - "The claims from defendents blaming their actions on pot don't make any sense imo other than scapegoating."
I HAVE TO agree with you on that one. I ALWAYS think the same thing when I hear that!
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Post by mikebook on May 15, 2005 13:25:01 GMT -5
The liver can filter one drink/hour, depending on weight and how healthy the person is. No clue about pot...
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Post by mikebook on May 15, 2005 13:28:50 GMT -5
forgot to mention I was in an '89 toyota carolla-The drunk was in a Ford f-150...Guess whose car lost...
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Post by CCADP on May 15, 2005 13:44:46 GMT -5
I don't want to spend too much time on this; but there is all kinds of information available on line - medical reports; medical commissions, government commissions etc....that kind of info is more than likely available. You should remember that compared to alcohol; pot is a mild mood elevater; and not nearly as impairing. (not to take any impairment lightly when driving is an issue) but we can't decide our laws (should pot be decriminilized) based on the fact that a minority of the population might misuse it. If that was the case; we better ban alcohol right away; and tobacco right away (those aren't a half bad idea actually if we want to make laws based on harm caused to society) . If you look at an unbiased medical explanation of the effects of different drugs on the body both short and long term; and compared alcohol and marijuana on the issue of which is more harmful to the user and those around him for the purpose of making one legal and one illegal; they would go back to the other kind of prohibition and choose to make the much more dangerous drug; alcohol; illegal.
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Post by mikebook on May 15, 2005 14:06:03 GMT -5
Actually, the Volstead Act was the last time Rural America has been able to influence behavior in cities. Legisltion of morality is doomed to fail. Many people in cities in america at tthe time of the Act were from countries that had a far more liberal view of alcohol than the country folk. Before the FDA, you could buy cocaine and opium at the local drug store...
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Post by CCADP on May 15, 2005 14:15:10 GMT -5
I agree with most of that! This thread is still open for the faith based prisons stuff in case we have scared others off veering off topic smile
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