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Post by dedco12 on Sept 9, 2009 23:57:03 GMT -5
Deleted. This is an Anti- Death penalty website. Debate rationally and take your anger elsewhere.
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Post by biglinmarshall on Sept 22, 2009 19:39:59 GMT -5
I don't know what the deleted post was but from the one I've just seen that appears to have been locked (otherwise I would have replied to it) I can see the pain of an MVS and the anger they rightly feel against the person who murdered their loved ones being directed wrongly against people who oppose the death penalty.
I will make my own response if I may and will begin by stating that I am a SUPPORTER of the death penalty.
I am also an MVS myself and know two other families whose lives were destroyed by murder.
On the other hand, I am married to a man who is an anti and both of us respect each other's point of view on capital punishment even though we disagree on the issue.
I know Pumpkinpie well enough to tell you that she does NOT deserve the volley of abuse you threw at her.
If she'll forgive me for putting words in her mouth, she is opposed to the death penalty but that does NOT make her either an advocate for murderers or in any way soft on crime.
She favours LWOP as the punishment for murder.
I do not agree with her on that particular issue but that does NOT stop me from respecting and understanding her sincerity and her moral opposition to the execution of anyone.
You are a new poster and I hope you continue to post but hopefully keeping the passion and anger that clearly drives you while avoiding the blind hatred of anyone who is not simply baying for blood regardless of the facts.
Welcome to the board, by the way!
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Post by pumpkinpie on Sept 22, 2009 22:14:46 GMT -5
I don't know what the deleted post was but from the one I've just seen that appears to have been locked (otherwise I would have replied to it) I can see the pain of an MVS and the anger they rightly feel against the person who murdered their loved ones being directed wrongly against people who oppose the death penalty. Yes, this is exactly the truth, and this has happened NUMEROUS times on here! I don't understand why. I guess people feel they have so much anger and resentment because someone so cold-blooded has done them so wrong, that they feel they have to take it out on someone, so why not those who oppose the death penalty, right?  It's quite a cruel world, and sometimes people have no where to go with their anger, but strangers. Or those who oppose what seems most "important" or satisfying to them. So they midas well just get a new hobby or start blogging out their anger or something. I feel for them, but these kind of people just take their anger out on the wrong people. I certainly would NEVER want anyone's loved one's murderer released to go kill again! My idea of justice being served is life without a possibility of parole! No matter what happens though, a life or death sentence- there really probably is no justice for murder. It's such an unfair and horrid act, never to bring anyone back. Leaving loved ones a mess with lives lost and shattered. I feel for these people, even the ones who leave the mean posts which end up deleted. It's such a horrid and sensless act. No one should be murdered, ever. And the state should not replay murder by executing the condemned either. They are condemned, they are doomed, they are prisoners, they have nothing- let them live out their pathetic sentence in their overall pathetic existence as a prisoner, and let God decide when they "go," not us. When you try to play God by ending someone's life, you end up playing the Devil. |
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Post by beachluver on Dec 6, 2009 4:15:52 GMT -5
I really don't know where to post this. I suppose this is better place than any.... I've notice on every site i've visited people always talk about DP in the USA. What about the other 70 or so countries who also have DP? Why is everyone so concerned about abolishing DP in the USA? Are other countries uncivilized to even bother with'em?
Many talk about TX - Texas is a huge state. It can very easily make 3 states - I totally understand why so many men are put to death...
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Post by happyhaddock on Dec 20, 2009 16:31:12 GMT -5
... I can see the pain of an MVS and the anger they rightly feel against the person who murdered their loved ones being directed wrongly against people who oppose the death penalty. Not necessarily. There are people in the USA who will attack anyone given a chance. Even people like the parents of Elizabeth Smart become the targets of this poisonous and irrational rage. |
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Post by biglinmarshall on Jan 19, 2010 18:26:09 GMT -5
Haddock, I am NOT someone who hates prisoners. I visit them regularly, correspond with them, help them to find jobs and homes on their release.
Just because I support the death penalty doesn't mean that:
a) I am filled with bloodlust and a desperate desire to execute people
b) I don't believe we should bend over backwards to avoid executing innocents
c) I don't believe that innocents have been executed
d) I don't care about that fact
e) I don't care about how DR inmates are treated
Even on PTO (yes, honestly!) I got slagged off yesterday for being TOO sympathetic to inmates.
Go figure!
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Post by arizonavet on Jan 28, 2011 12:06:19 GMT -5
Dedco.....I'm a prodp person, but if you think the CCADP has ANY "pro-dp" sites....anywhere, you are delusional.
It's true that pro-dp sites allow ALL to voice their opinion, and this anti-dp site allows dp debate only on this specific topic heading...
But it's THEIR site......gotta go by THEIR rules!
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Post by isabella8688 on Mar 12, 2012 4:00:11 GMT -5
I don't know what the deleted post was but from the one I've just seen that appears to have been locked (otherwise I would have replied to it) I can see the pain of an MVS and the anger they rightly feel against the person who murdered their loved ones being directed wrongly against people who oppose the death penalty. I will make my own response if I may and will begin by stating that I am a SUPPORTER of the death penalty. I am also an MVS myself and know two other families whose lives were destroyed by murder. On the other hand, I am married to a man who is an anti and both of us respect each other's point of view on capital punishment even though we disagree on the issue. I know Pumpkinpie well enough to tell you that she does NOT deserve the volley of abuse you threw at her. If she'll forgive me for putting words in her mouth, she is opposed to the death penalty but that does NOT make her either an advocate for murderers or in any way soft on crime. She favours LWOP as the punishment for murder. I do not agree with her on that particular issue but that does NOT stop me from respecting and understanding her sincerity and her moral opposition to the execution of anyone. You are a new poster and I hope you continue to post but hopefully keeping the passion and anger that clearly drives you while avoiding the blind hatred of anyone who is not simply baying for blood regardless of the facts. Welcome to the board, by the way! Thanks you for the post. __________________ Watch John Carter Online Free |
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Post by happyhaddock on Mar 13, 2012 20:25:06 GMT -5
It's true that pro-dp sites allow ALL to voice their opinion... Not IME. |
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It's quite a cruel world, and sometimes people have no where to go with their anger, but strangers. Or those who oppose what seems most "important" or satisfying to them. So they midas well just get a new hobby or start blogging out their anger or something. I feel for them, but these kind of people just take their anger out on the wrong people. I certainly would NEVER want anyone's loved one's murderer released to go kill again! My idea of justice being served is life without a possibility of parole! No matter what happens though, a life or death sentence- there really probably is no justice for murder. It's such an unfair and horrid act, never to bring anyone back. Leaving loved ones a mess with lives lost and shattered. I feel for these people, even the ones who leave the mean posts which end up deleted. It's such a horrid and sensless act. No one should be murdered, ever. And the state should not replay murder by executing the condemned either. They are condemned, they are doomed, they are prisoners, they have nothing- let them live out their pathetic sentence in their overall pathetic existence as a prisoner, and let God decide when they "go," not us. When you try to play God by ending someone's life, you end up playing the Devil. 