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Post by catskillz on May 13, 2005 3:00:56 GMT -5
I must say im intrested too in seeing some evidence or presumed evidence that was not brought up during trial.
Personally i do think he is guilty. I don't see any other obvious reason for his behaviour during the searches, investigation and (pre-)trial. I've been reading transcripts, watched the video's and interviews, observed his behaviour.
Nevertheless i don't agree with the sentence. Even if one wouldn't reject the DP in general, i think there was too little hard evidence to warrant the DP. My gut feeling says he did it, but the evidence theoretically doens't rule out all other options. I haven't seen any evidence from the defense side yet that would rule out scotts involvement in my perception.
Best, catz.
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Post by MoonRiver on May 14, 2005 6:50:53 GMT -5
Greetings all. My first post this morning and it might be long (apologies) in order to address some points. First and foremost, hearty thanks to 'Tracy' for inviting continuity on this subject and for informing us we will be getting closer insight on this case! Applause to you.
I've come across this site once before and only revisited after hearing of Michael B Ross's execution. As I don't believe in the DP, I decided to navigate ... and found this thread; namely this topic.
I wish to state my participation here up front, as I think many have experienced, witnessed or heard some harsh debates regarding Scott Peterson. That will not be my stance and I have no desire to 'attack' anyone; moreover, I'm trusting it might be a pleasure to participate in and among level-headed, knowledgeable people.
There's no denying, Scott's case made local, regional, national and international headlines. That helped garner fierce attention, whether it be pro or against Scott. Therefore, I anticipate this thread topic will (sooner or later) gain more attention.
Despite my belief that Scott is guilty, I don't believe in the Death Penalty. That gives us common ground already. However, I would like to know more, as you have already offered, Maggie, that might lead me to understand things differently.
My interest here? Apart from the fact I'm currently studying psychology, (but am only in my first few months of the degree so let me say up front I am a 'raw baby') I DO believe some innocent people have hanged for crimes they did not commit. That's partially why I am against the DP and I'm also no spring-chicken and lost a relative ('centuries ago') to abuse, myself. I will always have 'questions'.
So, with your approval, could we start with just 3 issues in this case that do not resonate with me (and other people, I am sure). I genuinely look forward to productive, constructive and realistic discussions!
1. Of Lee's letter to the ModBee: indeed he's entitled to his views and opinions, but there is ONE thing that jumped out at me (which was later addressed by a respondent) and that was how can all the media, the pros, the jury, everyone be labelled liars when the transcripts produced some alarming lies Scott told, and these came from his own mouth? I felt Lee Peterson should have at least acknowledged this as opposed to branding "everyone else" liars.
2. The location of the bodies clinched it FOR ME, despite feeling Scott was responsible much earlier on in 2003. I personally believe the reason Scott handed over the launch ticket, so readily, was because he did not expect the bodies to ever resurface. Had he anticipated this, then of course, he'd be a fool to state his location. It alarmed me when he told national viewers that 'the police were wasting their time' looking in the Marina and I became even more alarmed when he rented cars to monitor their searches. Why? It meant he was 'wasting his own time' too there, instead of searching. Why use binos? Why change cars? Why hide from doing the ONE THING expected of him (be it media, LE, viewers, family or girlfriends)? He was expected to search. Instead he went under cover. Perhaps had the media SEEN him actively participate, the media might have been different. You can't blame the media for being human; Scott simply hid, excused or disguised himself far too often. (IMO).
3. His double life. That was a blow-out. However, I ran against the feeling that "Scott doesn't show emotion" because he'd broken down uncontrollaby on Amber Frey's sofa claiming he'd lost his wife ... yet Laci was, at that stage, very much alive. For me, I could never even consider those thoughts and there's no way could I break down sobbing over it. That's an act in and of itself, all for sexual gain? Lie for sex? Yes, of course, anyone can do that. It was the theme, the theatrics and the theological background that accompanied that very ominous lie that was highly compelling.
I'm willing to listen and also wave the white flag right here and now that yes, I'm an outsider, of average intelligence, good schooling, great family, sober habits and basically just your 'everday' citizen who has only ever joined one other forum on the Internet.
Suffice to say I do feel for the Peterson family's pain; as deeply as I feel for the Rochas. Tragic losses all round. Maybe you're a legal-eagle, Maggie, which will make this all the more interesting. Good luck with your objectives.
Sorry this is so long; promise next ones will be brief!
Moon.
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Post by MoonRiver on May 14, 2005 7:05:02 GMT -5
Ooops. Just to add, I've been following crime stories for years and years. OJ's trial had me hooked and I remained glued through to David Westerfield's trial which is about when Scott's story broke. The forum I (previously) joined had many heated debates which made things uneasy for a lot of people. I subscribed to the transcripts and read every word throughout this trial. If there are 'things' that never came to light, I would be keen to know about them, Maggie. Again: why have more death? Peace to all. Moon.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 7:56:58 GMT -5
Hi Moon,
I'm always up for debating the Peterson case.
I'll start here ;D
By all accounts Scott Peterson is a sane and intelligent person. He has no history of violence and no criminal record.
Scott Peterson left his home the morning of December 24th at around 10:00 AM. That fact is not in dispute. He claims that his wife was alive that morning and they had watched at least a portion of her favorite show, Martha Stewart Living. Scott recalled that Martha talked about meringue. He was right- sure enough, Martha talked about meringue. That fact is not in dispute. Now- am I to believe that after Scott killed his wife and wrapped her body, he decided to watch a little Martha Stewart? No- I can’t buy that. We also know that the Peterson home computer was accessed that morning and web pages were viewed with subject matter specific to Laci Peterson’s habits. That fact is not in dispute. Am I to believe that after Scott killed Laci, he decided to do a little internet surfing for sunflower motifs and GAP scarves. No, I can’t buy that.
Scott then left the home and drove to his warehouse where he spent time sending e-mail and downloading instructions on how to assemble a wood-working machine. These facts are not in dispute. Am I to believe that while Laci’s body was getting rigor in Scott’s truck he decided to surf the net and spend over an hour assembling a tool that he would not need that day? No- I can’t buy that.
Scott then drove to the Bay and legally purchased a launch ticket in broad daylight in a populated area. These facts are not in dispute. Am I to believe that Scott chose the very public Bay, in broad daylight, to take his wife’s dead body out on the maiden voyage of his untested boat, risking almost certain capsize, to dump it in shallow water? No- I can’t buy that.
Scott came home and found his dog, still leashed, in the backyard. The dog had been found wandering alone on the street and was returned by the neighbor, Karen Servas. These facts are not in dispute. Am I to believe that Scott leashed the dog himself, and let the dog run loose before his trip to the warehouse, risking the dog would be found and returned to the alleged crime scene while Scott was away? Possibly prompting a neighbor to knock on the Peterson door? No- I can’t buy that.
Pictures were taken of Scott while he engaged in a four date affair with single mother Amber Frey. These facts are not in dispute. Am I to believe that a four date affair is motive for murder? No- I can’t buy that. Am I to believe that while Scott was allowing himself to be photographed with Amber Frey he was premeditating his wife’s murder. No- I can’t buy that.
Scott initially lied about his fling with Amber, and Scott lied to Amber about his marital status and where he lived. These facts are not in dispute. Am I to believe that lying is a rare occurrence during infidelity? No- I can’t buy that.
There is not a shred of evidence that ties Scott Peterson to the murder of Laci Peterson. Not one single thing. Nothing.
I feel strongly that Scott Peterson was convicted because of media demonization and the corrupt tactics of the MPD. Every person in this country should take note of the facts in this case versus media brainwashing. The media is powerful, and it has proven itself dangerous. An innocent man sits on death row because of the power of the media.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 8:04:00 GMT -5
Moon- here is some more for you. I'm going to copy a report from the defense investigator, which is part of the motion that Mark Geragos filed back in March.... actually it's best to read the entire motion, and if there is some way that I can copy that PDF file here, I hope Tracy will let me know and I will but for now- here is the investigators report. This was IGNORED by judge Delucchi.... There were no reports ever given to the defense on this matter, no police investigation or follow-up.... NOTHING, except a name on a tipsheet, buried with literally thousands of tips.
Person Interviewed: Lt. Xavier Aponte Employment: California Department of Corrections Position: Lieutenant Address: California Rehabilitation Center, PO Box 1841, Norco, CA 92860 Telephone: (951) 273-2967
Results of Interview
On 12/01/2004, at 9:40 AM, Lt. Xavier Aponte was interviewed in his office at California Rehabilitation Center regarding a recorded conversation between inmate Shawn Tenbrink and his brother Adam Tenbrink that occurred in the month of January 2003. Lt. Aponte was asked if the interview could be taped recorded and he said that he preferred that it not be recorded. Lt. Aponte provided the following information.
Lt. Aponte has been employed by the State of California, Department of Corrections for 18 years. From April 26, 1999 until February 2003, he was assigned to the Investigations Unit at California Rehabilitation Center. On February 18, 2003 he had a job change to Watch Commander.
California Rehab Center records inmate telephone calls to outside parties via the Inmate Monitoring and Recording System abbreviated IMARS. Inmates are allowed to place one (1) collect call per day for 15 minutes to outside parties. When the call is placed and connected a recording comes on at the beginning advising the party called that call is an inmate at a California Correctional Facility and that the call is monitored (recorded). The IMARS tapes used to be recycled within 30-60 days when the system was originally installed because the tapes were expensive and the budget limited. With an expanded budget, more tapes were purchased so that recordings could be kept one (1) year. Sometime after January 2003, the IMARS was changed to a new system whereby it became easier to retrieve recorded messages over a longer period of time. The old system was basically just a recording system and if the tape was recycled or lost then the recorded conversation was permanently lost. On the new system, it is possible to retrieve the recorded conversation from a company back East.
Lt. Aponte first became aware of Shawn Tenbrink talking about Laci Peterson within a couple weeks of her missing. Shawn was talking about Laci missing while he was out in his housing unit. A housing staff person left a message on Lt. Aponte’s voice mail and he immediately called the Modesto Police Department Hotline. He called a second time within the same week because he did not receive a call back from his first telephone call. Lt. Aponte said it was at least a week before anyone got back to him. Lt. Aponte said a detective called him back and arrangements were made for the detective to interview Shawn Tenbrink. Lt. Aponte believes that it was after he spoke to the detective that he listened to the recorded conversation between Shawn Tenbrink and his brother Adam Tenbrink. To the best of his recollection, Adam Tenbrink talked to Shawn Tenbrink about Laci Peterson missing and mentioned that that Laci happened to walk up while Steven Todd was doing the burglary and Todd made some kind of threat to Laci.
Lt. Aponte did not recall the name of the detective, however when asked about the names Craig Grogan, Al Brocchini, Mark Smith and Owens, Lt. Aponte said Grogan sounded familiar. Lt. Aponte said he recalls the names (black out… looks like two names) and Steve Todd from the recorded telephone conversation. The telephone call lasted about 3-4 minutes.
The detective from MPD came down to California Rehabilitation Center and interviewed (blacked out) within the first couple of weeks from his first call to the MPD hotline. Lt. Aponte did not recall the date of the interview. When Shawn Tenbrink walked into Lt. Aponte’s office for the interview he appeared scared. In retrospect, Lt. Aponte does not know if it was the environment Shawn was in that made him afraid or something else. By environment, Lt. Aponte was referring to Shawn being interviewed by the police in his office. Lt. Aponte specifically recalls Shawn denying having a conversation with his brother Adam and denying knowing Steve Todd. The detectives asked if there was anyway in which Shawn Tenbrink’s activities could be monitored. Lt. Aponte said they monitored his phone calls and mail more closely.
Lt. Aponte said that to his recollection the MPD detective listened to the recorded telephone conversation. Lt. Aponte is 99% positive he made a separate recording onto a cassette tape of the telephone conversation between Shawn and Adam. He did this thinking it would be important at some date. Lt. Aponte does not recall if the detective took a copy of the tape or at a later date received a copy of the taped telephone conversation. Lt. Aponte said that at the time this occurred, the investigations unit was in the old Administration Building. After Lt. Aponte left the Investigative Unit, the Administration Building was moved from a 10,000 square foot area to occupy a 3000 square foot area. In the process it has been difficult at times to locate things. Lt. Aponte said he kept a spiral notebook of calls he received which would have indicated the call from the detective, however he does not know what happened to it in the move.
Immediately following the interview with the MPD detective, Shawn went back to his housing unti and called his mother’s place to get in touch with Adam. His brother wasn’t home so Shawn talked to his mother. Lt. Aponte’s recollection of the recorded telephone call was that Shawn told his mother to tell Adam that the police just interviewed him and he was to keep his mouth shut because he doesn’t know who he is dealing with. Lt. Aponte said based on Shawn’s conversation with his mother it did not seem that Steve Todd, Shawn and Adam were friends. The telephone call lasted about 3-4 minutes about the same amount of time as when Shawn called Adam. Lt. Aponte said Shawn had little or no respect for his mother based on listening to the recorded telephone conversation.
Lt. Aponte stated this was the first time he came across Shawn Tenbrink and said Shawn kept to himself. Shawn did not appear to be a problem at Norco. Lt. Aponte said Shawn Tenbrink’s central file possibly could be accessed through CDC Legal Affairs.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 8:08:20 GMT -5
Why is the above document important?? I'm going to copy something I wrote up for a pro-Scott website...
If the Medina burglary occurred on 12/24, and I believe it did, then the interview with the corrections officer concerning the taped conversation he heard between an inmate and the inmate’s brother, regarding Laci Peterson walking into the Medina burglary and being confronted by Steve Todd, is Brady material and Scott should get a new trial.
I believe the transcripts themselves prove the Medina burglary took place 12/24.
From testimony, Officer Hicks:
25 MR. GERAGOS: Q. And the information about the 26 three people who were -- let me just show you something.
10318 1 Got Bates stamp 14765. 2 And I would just ask if I could, do you remember 3 what date, Mr. Harris -- my Mr. Harris, do you remember 4 what date that's from? 5 MR. PAT HARRIS: Which one? What's the dates? 6 MR. GERAGOS: For Diane Jackson. 7 MR. PAT HARRIS: Looks like 12-26. 8 MR. GERAGOS: Okay. 9 Q. Does it appear that at 4:10 that Diane Jackson 10 called and said that she witnessed the 459 on Covena at 11 11:40? She saw the van and the safe being removed from the 12 house?
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20060 1 A. Yes. 2 Q. And when was that safe rolled out in the front 3 yard? Do you know when -- did they tell you that happened? 4 A. Between 6:30 and 7:00. 5 THE COURT: Between 6:30 and 7:00. 6 MR. GERAGOS: Q. Do you have any problem with 7 the fact that Diane Jackson had reported on the 24th that she 8 saw the safe out on the front yard? 9 A. I don't know who Diane Jackson is. 10 Q. Okay. If the safe wasn't rolled out until the 11 26th, that would seem to be a problem with why Diane Jackson 12 saw the safe there on the 24th, wouldn't it? She reported a 13 van with a safe in the front yard on the 24th? 14 A. I'm unfamiliar with Miss Diane Jackson, Mr. Geragos. 15 MR. GERAGOS: Thank you. I have no further questions.
From Pat Harris's answer to Geragos' question, we can determine that Diane Jackson made a report at 4:10PM on 12/26, and in that report she mentioned seeing the safe on 12/24. Additionally, we know that during Detective Grogan's testimony, Geragos gave him a report to read from which says that Diane Jackson reported seeing a safe on 12/24.
Now, take note of the testimony of Susan Medina concerning her arrival back home after being away for Christmas:
9 Q. What's the first thing that you noticed as you 10 got off the freeway or you started to drive through the 11 downtown area to go to your house? 12 A. We were on G Street, and we glanced at the 13 Modesto police headquarter, it's on G Street and 10th, I 14 think, and we saw a lot of cameras. And my husband says 15 Call your son and see why Modesto is on TV again. 16 17 (Laughter) 18 19 MR. DAVID HARRIS: Q. So not getting into -- did 20 you call your son? 21 A. Yes, we did. 22 Q. And, again, if you looked at your phone records, 23 would that indicate to you about what time it was that you 24 called your son on the 26th? 25 A. That is 4:12 p.m. 26 Q. So you're driving through downtown by the police
9598 1 department, you see these cameras, call your son at about 2 4:12? 3 A. Correct. 4 Q. Did you drive home? 5 A. Yeah, we drove home. 6 Did I drive home? 7 Q. When I say you, you or your husband? 8 A. Yeah, my husband. Yeah, my husband. He was 9 driving. 10 Q. And you're still in the passenger side of the 11 car? 12 A. Correct. 13 Q. You get to your house. Was there something 14 different at this point in time? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. What was that? 17 A. We can't get into the little -- when we were 18 trying to make a right turn from Edgebrook Drive to Covena, 19 we can't get in because there were some police, like some 20 sort of barricade, and we have to identify to the police 21 people that we live in that area, to let us in. 22 Q. Did you show some identification and then they 23 let you go to your house? 24 A. Yeah, my husband tried to pull out his driver's 25 license, and he pulled it out and showed it to them that we 26 live in that area.
9599 1 Q. And then are you allowed to go through the police 2 barricade? 3 A. We were allowed. 4 Q. Did you drive -- meaning you or your husband -- 5 did you go to the house, to your house? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. And as you get there, do you again pull into the 8 driveway towards that side gate? 9 A. We -- we stopped the car on the driveway. We 10 didn't go into the south side yet. Just on the driveway in 11 front of our house, in front of the main -- the main house. 12 We have a driveway in there. 13 Q. Now, as you start to go into the house, do you go 14 to the front door? Or where do you go? 15 A. The south gate. 16 Q. The south gate where the car had been behind 17 before? 18 A. Correct. 19 Q. And is that gate open, closed, locked, unlocked? 20 A. Still locked with a padlock. 21 Q. And had you or your husband locked that when you 22 left on the 24th? 23 A. My husband did locked it. 24 Q. So he has to undo the padlock, and you go through 25 kind of this side gate? 26 A. Correct.
9600 1 Q. Did you notice something a little bit unusual or 2 out of the ordinary as you were there in your driveway when 3 you first get home? 4 A. Yes. We saw a lot of people. People are on our 5 lawns. There were a lot of police officers. There was a 6 car, a police car, many police cars. 7 And when we drove into our driveway, we glanced 8 at -- at our front door, and it was locked. So we thought, 9 you know, it must not be our house. And as my husband 10 proceeded to open the south gate, he told me to get out and 11 ask the couple of -- I think they were sheriff from Contra 12 Costa, to ask what's happening.
We have Diane Jackson calling the MPD at 4:10 on 12/26. The Medina’s did not arrive home until after Diane Jackson called. Obviously, Diane Jackson could not have used a non-existent media report as her source of knowledge that a safe had been stolen from the Medina's home, which means she had to have seen the safe out in front of the Medina's home on 12/24, just as she reported to the police.
We have just corroborated that the burglary did not occur on 12/26 and that the burglars lied. The burglary took place on 12/24, and, as such, the probability that the correction officer’s report has a strong basis in fact becomes much more likely, indeed.
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Post by catskillz on May 14, 2005 8:20:01 GMT -5
Maggie,
As an 'insider', how do u explain Scott's behaviour during all of this ordeal?
I'm definately not part of the lynchmob, but that aspect has made a very big impression on me, not in his favour.
I think this should be explained because leads as these (i dont question legitimacy) look kind of 'pale' against the large suspicion Scott has put up on himself by the way he behaved, imho.
Best, catz.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 8:20:48 GMT -5
Opps Moon, I did not address your 3 areas.
1-- Scott's only lie was about his affair with Amber Frey. People lie when they cheat.... nothing unusual there. (I do not condone cheating, but the fact is millions of people do it, daily)
2- Where the bodies washed up...... The bodies did not "wash up" where Scott was. Scott boated to Brooks Island, the bodies were not found there. The State's expert testified to the trajectory of Conner's body only, he could not do the same with Laci. If Conner's body separated from Laci, it stands to reason they should have gone in the same direction. The bigger question is why would Scott tell the MPD the exact spot he was at in the Bay if that is where he dumped the body? (I already posted this to truth1.... so it might look familiar.) I don't believe the bodies "washed up" at all... I believe they were planted, and that is a huge discussion in and of itself. Conner was found beyond the jetty..... with no damage to his skin except for a single laceration-- a smooth laceration. He had tape, described as twine, tied around his neck with a bow tie knot... with a circumference LESS than the head. According to Dr. Wecht-- could nothave been debris "In a million years".
3- No double life.... a four date affair.
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Post by MoonRiver on May 14, 2005 8:27:37 GMT -5
Hi Maggie, Put your wallet AWAY ;D ;D I'm not selling anything, lol. Honest! Maggie, 'reliving' Scott Peterson's entire trial here might be way off the mark and those transcripts are way too long to dissect today!!! Believe me, I'm not 'chickening out'. I'm brand new here and would hate to instantly hijack an entire thread due to MY personal beliefs and frustrations vs a 6 month trial and the reasons Scott was convicted. IF a forum (example only) or a NEW thread is opened to specifically discuss, say, celebrity cases or wrongful convictions, then maybe. Scott's case has hit celebrity status, let's face it. Maybe there is such a forum here; I have to still check out the whole site, too Meantime, so happens I very much 'get' the things that you don't. That's OK, too. Your thread title and opening post regarding Lee Peterson's letter and the lies that 'everyone else' told just triggered an interest in me that warranted signing up and asking the 3 questions that I opened with. I felt Lee could have, or rather should have, acknowledged his own son's lies before laboring at length about HIS perceptions as to every one else's alleged lies. That saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" came straight to mind when I read his letter the fist time around. Yes, I very much respect your opinion, depsite not agreeing with your views. To me, he is guilty but death is not the answer and certainly won't bring Laci and Conner back. JMO.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 8:30:18 GMT -5
Maggie, As an 'insider', how do u explain Scott's behaviour during all of this ordeal? I'm definately not part of the lynchmob, but that aspect has made a very big impression on me, not in his favour. I think this should be explained because leads as these (i dont question legitimacy) look kind of 'pale' against the large suspicion Scott has put up on himself by the way he behaved, imho. Best, catz. What behavior Catz? The affair with Amber Frey? He waited until Jan 6 to come clean with her.... imo- he waited to tell Amber because he thought Laci would come home or be found.... I think the affair was horrible timing, but Scott didn't know Laci was going to be abducted.... the fact he even had the affair so close to her disappearance tells me consciousness of innocence- he allowed himself to be photographed with Amber! He was not premeditating Laci's death! Also- Amber was meant to be a short term fling. Scott also lied to Amber like many married cheating men do-- and the lies he told Amber could never have been reconciled, I think it's obvious he planned on keeping it short term..... So Amber is laughable as motive-- and certainly not worth the risk if you are premeditaitng murder. So what behavior do you mean?
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Post by catskillz on May 14, 2005 8:36:29 GMT -5
Interviews, public appearance, efforts in searching, golfing when laci is missing.. .. the way he was caught with money, goate, hair color, the way he behaved in court , not taking a polygraph..think i can go on like this for a while..
Either under pressure of the media (due to fear of conviction when innocent or fear of getting caught when guilty)..trying to not damage the case.. non of this seems to be a reasonable explanation for this when thinking about it, imho.
These are not things portayed just by the media, it's things one can form a judgement on themselves by looking at the facts and footage.
Best, catz.
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Post by catskillz on May 14, 2005 8:40:54 GMT -5
The relationship with Amber didn't add to my perception of his guilt in any way by the fact that they had a relation (as being a probable cause).
Best catz
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Post by MoonRiver on May 14, 2005 8:47:36 GMT -5
That's some reading... I'll read it in depth shortly, suffice to say: The Medina's left their home at 11:40 on 12/24. The burglary happened after Laci was reported missing. At the end of the day, Cyril Wecht never took the witness stand and no official comments or reports were entered into the proceedings. Prior to the gag order he commented as AN ANALYST, despite his being renowned as an expert. Geragos had ample opportunity to call him to the stand and failed to do so and Cyril stated he was not going to state something 'just for the defense' if he did not believe it. I regained respect for the man when that emerged. Years ago, 2 Australians crashed their plane and survived ashore for X many weeks, one of the seats eventually washed up over A MILE down the coast, while the bulk of the wreck landed at one spot. That's due to current activity. Exhaustive and expensive sea searches failed to find the rest of the heavy equipment on the sea bed which was ALSO relatively shallow. It simply sank into the soft sand... perhaps forever. It's interesting you genuinely believe Scott only lied about his affair with Amber. I do hear where catz is coming from in terms of his behavior and attitude throughout the 4 month period leading to the startling resurfacing of the bodies. IMO, he's guilty but death is not necessarily the answer.
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Post by CCADP on May 14, 2005 8:56:10 GMT -5
I still have no real opinion on the case; but Maggie has raised some great points I think! Moon - i think we can say that death is DEFINATELY not the answer. I think we all need to look at how easy it is to say 'he's guilty' - I want everyone to remember that its a purely circumstantial case. I've seen tons of cases where the person looked guiltier; and turned out innocent ; and vice versa...! Even in DNA cases; DNA lab people make mistakes; and even outright falsify evidence. As far as why did he die his hair; look like he was running etc etc; well - if you read over some of the cases of wrongful conviction and outright prosecutor misconduct; even JUST some of the ones featured on our pages - well; let me tell you; if some parts of the US justice system was turning its eye and power against me; I'd DAMN sure consider running too .... why would it be impossible to wrongfully convict me (or Scott) as they have done so many others. Lots of people faced their trials; entrusting the system, and certain the jury would see the truth - instead they were sent straight to DR to wait a decade or more til they are lucky enough to get help and be exonerated... Things are not always what they seem - even if you really, really think they seem that way.
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Post by Maggie on May 14, 2005 9:01:34 GMT -5
Interviews, He did interviews, edited versions were aired. Diane Sawyer herself stated that during her interview they had to stop several times because Scott became too emotional. public appearance, efforts in searching, golfing when laci is missing.. .. public appearance? what does that mean? As for efforts in searching, Scott put out a ton of effort- this came out at trial- it was not reported in the media.... golfing?? Please be more specific as I don't believe Scott was living any kind of carefree, stress free life.... AT ALL. the way he was caught with money, goate, hair color, He was not "caught" with money- the cash on him was also explained in court, it involved a mistake his mother made in a banking transaction and the documents were shown in court to prove it. The mistake occured before the bodies were discovered. The change in appearance was also long before the bodies were found and the "change" was well known to the police that followed him 24/7. Scott couldn't even go into a 7-11 without being recognized and often harassed, so this makes perfect sense to me. the way he behaved in court , not taking a polygraph..think i can go on like this for a while.. behaved in court? Again, I don't get it. I tend not to judge behavior under extreme stress. The polygraph-- talk to a lawyer about those..... Just like the "almost" prime suspect in the recent runaway bride story..... Either under pressure of the media (due to fear of conviction when innocent or fear of getting caught when guilty)..trying to not damage the case.. non of this seems to be a reasonable explanation for this when thinking about it, imho. These are not things portayed just by the media, it's things one can form a judgement on themselves by looking at the facts and footage. Best, catz.
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