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Post by andie on Jul 21, 2008 19:14:41 GMT -5
Maybe he's just showing what Atkins failed to show--which is compassion--only arnold isn't under the influence of drugs, but the majority of society.... but again the situations are different...Arnold isn't taking a life like Sue did....he's just not granting her request. "You do the crime you pay your time" Aging inmates taking its toll on N.C. prison system By Mandy Locke The Myrtle Beach Online RAEFORD, N.C. — At 87, where Woodrow Williams wanders, his oxygen tube and tank follow. Not that he's going far. . . . . The article points out that in "rare circumstances" inmates are allowed home to die. In Atkins case, she has served a 40 year sentence, and is literally on her death bed with brain cancer and half her body paralized. Why in the world was the release of Atkins vetoed? Because Schwarzinager is an un-comassionate ass?
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Post by happyhaddock on Jul 21, 2008 19:33:53 GMT -5
The article points out that in "rare circumstances" inmates are allowed home to die. In Atkins case, she has served a 40 year sentence, and is literally on her death bed with brain cancer and half her body paralyzed. Why in the world was the release of Atkins vetoed? Because Schwarzenegger is an un-compassionate ass? He is a wussy - always has been.
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Post by justme on Jul 22, 2008 14:45:16 GMT -5
It was actually the 11-member California Board of Parole which denied the compassionate release. Arnold just said he supported the decision.
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Post by happyhaddock on Jul 22, 2008 18:07:13 GMT -5
It was actually the 11-member California Board of Parole which denied the compassionate release. Arnold just said he supported the decision. If he said he was in favor they would change their minds but he wants to be re-elected so he won't show compassion.
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Post by ktlsull1 on Jul 23, 2008 13:27:48 GMT -5
You deleted a post just as I thought you would. There is no open discussion here, only the discussion that suits the agenda, that based on you bleeding hearts in Canada. You pointed out there was a place to air out opinions for those in favor of the death penalty. Well after searching for it I saw that it is a small faction compared to the numerous threads that give Peterson and other convicted killers a forum for them to play on the hearts of people like you that stand no chance to get a reprieve. <Rest deleted. Insults, not debate. Make your points in a logical fashion, don't just throw random comments out there that make no sense>.
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Post by happyhaddock on Jul 23, 2008 17:15:10 GMT -5
You deleted a post just as I thought you would. There is no open discussion here, only the discussion that suits the agenda, that based on you bleeding hearts in Canada. You pointed out there was a place to air out opinions for those in favor of the death penalty. Well after searching for it I saw that it is a small faction compared to the numerous threads that give Peterson and other convicted killers a forum for them to play on the hearts of people like you that stand no chance to get a reprieve. We feel no need to make this a place for those driven by hate. There are dozens of boards like that - this is our board, driven by a sense of fair play and justice. A conviction in the USA is not proof of guilt. Hundreds have been released despite the efforts of the so called justice system because they were wrongly convicted. The death penalty isn't applied to the worst people, it is applied to those with the worst lawyers.
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Post by matthew on Jul 25, 2008 22:18:17 GMT -5
For a long time I didn't think the idea of killing those who have killed was appropriate, or logical, or morally right.
As I have grown older, and made my way in the world, and reached a point where I am able to support myself and start a family, my views have changed.
I fully support all efforts to help young people to prevent them starting a life of crime.
But for those that commit the worst crimes then I completely support capital punishment. I am not religious, nor uneducated.
To those that oppose, I ask of them - how many of you have been the victims, or relatives of victims, that have been tortured, raped, murdered?
All humans reach a point in their life, regardless of their upbringing, where they may consciously choose their path. Choose to murder and destroy and in my eyes you forfeit your right to be in this world.
I suspect that many of those anti death penalty campaigners do not fully appreciate the undercurrent of seething violence that exists in most societies. For many of these people it is too late for rehabilitation.
Focus our resources on intervention with the young that can be saved.
Attend a grisly crime scene, speak with a murderer away from media attention, hear what they really have to say about their crimes, repeat for ten years, and I bet you too will support capital punishment. There are dangerous people that given a chance will commit sickening crimes on you and your family. Sure they are sorry and sad for their choices they made that led them to death row. Thats life. Make your bed and lie in it.
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Post by briseis on Jul 26, 2008 7:03:51 GMT -5
You deleted a post just as I thought you would. There is no open discussion here, only the discussion that suits the agenda, that based on you bleeding hearts in Canada. You pointed out there was a place to air out opinions for those in favor of the death penalty. Well after searching for it I saw that it is a small faction compared to the numerous threads that give Peterson and other convicted killers a forum for them to play on the hearts of people like you that stand no chance to get a reprieve. We feel no need to make this a place for those driven by hate. There are dozens of boards like that - this is our board, driven by a sense of fair play and justice. A conviction in the USA is not proof of guilt. Hundreds have been released despite the efforts of the so called justice system because they were wrongly convicted. The death penalty isn't applied to the worst people, it is applied to those with the worst lawyers. Happyhaddock, excellent post.
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Post by happyhaddock on Jul 26, 2008 14:03:17 GMT -5
For a long time I didn't think the idea of killing those who have killed was appropriate, or logical, or morally right. As I have grown older, and made my way in the world, and reached a point where I am able to support myself and start a family, my views have changed. I fully support all efforts to help young people to prevent them starting a life of crime. But for those that commit the worst crimes then I completely support capital punishment. I am not religious, nor uneducated. To those that oppose, I ask of them - how many of you have been the victims, or relatives of victims, that have been tortured, raped, murdered? All humans reach a point in their life, regardless of their upbringing, where they may consciously choose their path. Choose to murder and destroy and in my eyes you forfeit your right to be in this world. I suspect that many of those anti death penalty campaigners do not fully appreciate the undercurrent of seething violence that exists in most societies. For many of these people it is too late for rehabilitation. Focus our resources on intervention with the young that can be saved. Attend a grisly crime scene, speak with a murderer away from media attention, hear what they really have to say about their crimes, repeat for ten years, and I bet you too will support capital punishment. There are dangerous people that given a chance will commit sickening crimes on you and your family. Sure they are sorry and sad for their choices they made that led them to death row. Thats life. Make your bed and lie in it. Your position is simple. You want revenge but won't pay the price so you want the state to do it for you. You never give a thought to what it does to those who have to carry it out. If you want revenge on someone, kill them yourself and then let the state deal with you as it will.
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Post by pumpkinpie on Jul 26, 2008 19:47:59 GMT -5
For a long time I didn't think the idea of killing those who have killed was appropriate, or logical, or morally right. As I have grown older, and made my way in the world, and reached a point where I am able to support myself and start a family, my views have changed. I fully support all efforts to help young people to prevent them starting a life of crime. But for those that commit the worst crimes then I completely support capital punishment. I am not religious, nor uneducated. To those that oppose, I ask of them - how many of you have been the victims, or relatives of victims, that have been tortured, raped, murdered? All humans reach a point in their life, regardless of their upbringing, where they may consciously choose their path. Choose to murder and destroy and in my eyes you forfeit your right to be in this world. I suspect that many of those anti death penalty campaigners do not fully appreciate the undercurrent of seething violence that exists in most societies. For many of these people it is too late for rehabilitation. Focus our resources on intervention with the young that can be saved. Attend a grisly crime scene, speak with a murderer away from media attention, hear what they really have to say about their crimes, repeat for ten years, and I bet you too will support capital punishment. There are dangerous people that given a chance will commit sickening crimes on you and your family. Sure they are sorry and sad for their choices they made that led them to death row. Thats life. Make your bed and lie in it. Your position is simple. You want revenge but won't pay the price so you want the state to do it for you. You never give a thought to what it does to those who have to carry it out. If you want revenge on someone, kill them yourself and then let the state deal with you as it will. ;D Oh my god, your hilarious! ;D
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Post by sdl on Jul 26, 2008 20:36:53 GMT -5
It was actually the 11-member California Board of Parole which denied the compassionate release. Arnold just said he supported the decision. If he said he was in favor they would change their minds but he wants to be re-elected so he won't show compassion. Ahh-nuld is a goddamned Nazi. It's in his blood. Of course he won't show compassion.
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Post by terez on Aug 6, 2008 1:03:05 GMT -5
One the reasons I dont support the Death Penalty in most cases is because for many killers, death is just an escape. It also seems to make a matyr out of them as far as liberals are concerned. I personally think that in more ways than one, (so-called) Jailhouse Justice is FAR more fitting and appropriate than execution by that state. A really notable example of this was what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer. Had he been sentenced to death he'd prolly still be alive today writing his memoirs in Death Row. Instead, he was sentenced to life and was slain by another inmate-he died just as brutally and as mercilessly as he had killed ;D.If ONLY more predatory/thrill killers would suffer such a fate .
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Post by happyhaddock on Aug 6, 2008 12:00:56 GMT -5
One the reasons I dont support the Death Penalty in most cases is because for many killers, death is just an escape. It also seems to make a matyr out of them as far as liberals are concerned. I personally think that in more ways than one, (so-called) Jailhouse Justice is FAR more fitting and appropriate than execution by that state. A really notable example of this was what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer. Had he been sentenced to death he'd prolly still be alive today writing his memoirs in Death Row. Instead, he was sentenced to life and was slain by another inmate-he died just as brutally and as mercilessly as he had killed ;D.If ONLY more predatory/thrill killers would suffer such a fate . That makes you as murderous as any of them. Dahmer was murdered by the guards, IMO. Too many of the USA's prison guards are sadistic. Abu Ghraib was no aberration.
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Post by terez on Aug 6, 2008 12:05:46 GMT -5
Oh really? Sounds like you honestly feel sorry for that guy(to some extent). Its assinine to compare Dahmers case to Abu Ghraib! The prisoners at Abu Ghraib did not get a fair trial because they were regarded as POWs and "terrorists" so there was no basis for them being guilty of anything than fighting for "the enemy". Guys like Dahmer DID recieve a fair trial and it was Not the guards who killed him! Where did you get that idea?
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Post by sdl on Aug 6, 2008 17:22:35 GMT -5
You sound like you're from Texas...
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