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Post by sclcookie on Mar 2, 2006 4:30:37 GMT -5
Personally, I can't see anything positive from allowing pros coming in here. 99.9 % of the experiences I have had with pros in this forum have been or ended up negative.
If any anti can think of something positive pros have done for this board this past year, please post it here.
hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by jay on Mar 2, 2006 8:21:13 GMT -5
How about dio Suzanne? You get on really well with him don't you?
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Post by jay on Mar 2, 2006 8:27:32 GMT -5
Didn't many antis find Dio's letter to Richard cartright quite touching?
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Post by jay on Mar 2, 2006 8:27:52 GMT -5
Help me out Anti's, I'm doing all the work...........
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Post by xyntax on Mar 2, 2006 9:54:56 GMT -5
Okay, one good thing happening was getting Jay his first penpal on DR. He has appreciated this greatly. And we all owe it to letting him in here.
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 2, 2006 13:29:47 GMT -5
How about dio Suzanne? You get on really well with him don't you? I respected him for that letter he wrote to Rich. You are right there. There was one plus from one pro.
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 2, 2006 13:43:04 GMT -5
okay, maybe the pros who come in here should be limited? I don't know. Jay has earned my respect. So far he doesn't seem to be one of those who are only in here for their games (wolf in sheeps clothes), know what I mean. I'm just skeptical.
For example a majority of the pros come in here an bash us for being antis, being sympathic to those on death row, calling us "scum pals", if not here, on other forums.
They want to know why we are against the death penalty. I don't know about you all, but I'm tired of explaining the same thing to the same people......yes, the same people who come in here under different screen names, who already heard our arguments, they already know why we do what we do.
Then we have these people who are "antis", however, they bash us for writing inmates......
HELLO!!!! We are the inmates friends and family in here. E.G. Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Children, Grandparents....some of us knew the inmates prior to them being on death row.
Like my husband served time with some of the DR inmates. He know them prior to them being on death row. That is how we started writing DR inmates and became death row activists.
I know a lady whose ex is now on death row. She still has contact with him and fights to save his along with all DR inmates lives.
I know a mother and sister and cousin of an inmate who was executed last year.
We didn't become friends of these inmates just because we thought, "oh, let's become death row pen pals just because."
Many of us have personal ties with these inmates, one way or another.
We tell these people all of that, then they come in here and say, well, they shouldn't have murdered someone.....WTF. Why are they here? To put us down if that's the attitude they have.
We don't need those kind of people here.
hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 2, 2006 13:45:01 GMT -5
Anyway, please, more in put from other anti's.
hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by attitude on Mar 3, 2006 2:04:50 GMT -5
Personally,
I cannot think why anyone would want to write to a death row inmate, you know that and we have discussed that...
I respect that this is CCADP's webspace and they are free to do with it what ever they like, I have always thought if you wanted a debate forum you should keep it seperate from the "support forum"...mods, moderate to remove any offensive content , but all opinions are allowed especially if the person does make an attempt to back them up. I am a member of a board that bans people for making stupid oneline posts which hijack threads
I do not comment about families of murderers, simply becuase they did not go out and kill someone, it was their relative
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Post by judywaits4u on Mar 3, 2006 3:43:28 GMT -5
How about dio Suzanne? You get on really well with him don't you? I respected him for that letter he wrote to Rich. You are right there. There was one plus from one pro. Dio is one nasty piece of sh!t and is the lowest of the low.
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 3, 2006 13:42:17 GMT -5
Personally, I cannot think why anyone would want to write to a death row inmate, you know that and we have discussed that... I respect that this is CCADP's webspace and they are free to do with it what ever they like, I have always thought if you wanted a debate forum you should keep it seperate from the "support forum"...mods, moderate to remove any offensive content , but all opinions are allowed especially if the person does make an attempt to back them up. I am a member of a board that bans people for making stupid oneline posts which hijack threads I do not comment about families of murderers, simply becuase they did not go out and kill someone, it was their relative No, not all opinions are allowed in this debate section. Your comment about us writing inmates was simple and respectful, therefore, not modified, however I recently modified a comment about us writing inmates that was way out of line. Yes, this is a debate area, were we debate the death penalty. Not were we (us antis) are put down for writing inmates. We do and that's just that. Yes, cyclone, you are very respectful. And as far as I can tell, you aren't one to call us "dictators" or "nazis" for modifying or banning. Those kind of posts which are disrespectful to mods are deleted/modified. I'm assuming you realize all boards have rules to follow. Having pros in here can be quite upsetting to us anti's. And many valuable anti's don't come in here anymore. That's the reason for the recent threads. I was all for pros coming in here as long as they came in understanding of where they are (in an anti board full of people who write inmates....not only that, we are there mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, cousins, and many of us aren't blood related but we are their friends). Families of DR inmates/executed inmates don't come in here anymore. Why? Probably because they don't feel safe in here anymore. Why should the families of inmates be put down for being against the death penalty and writing their own families, or wanting their family members on death row to be able to escape DR life via letters from other people besides their families? Esp. in CCADP were we support writing inmates, with no criticism about it, even in the debate area. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Mar 3, 2006 13:43:15 GMT -5
I respected him for that letter he wrote to Rich. You are right there. There was one plus from one pro. Dio is one nasty piece of sh!t and is the lowest of the low. Welp, there is a minus against him which cancelled out my plus, therefore, not dio is not a good example. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by Alyce on Mar 3, 2006 16:08:45 GMT -5
For me personally I don't feel I need any PRO'S here at all. I kind of get tired of come on a site (this one) to lend support and want to help people and then in return have some fool throw insults at me for feeling the way I do,or to just plain out disrespect me. This is one subject (abolishing the DP) we will NEVER agree on. I know for sure I am not gonna change my belief . So I would be happy to do away with PRO'S altogether FOREVER!!!
Bless All Alyce
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Post by jay on Mar 4, 2006 4:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by Maggie on Mar 4, 2006 8:17:50 GMT -5
Anyway, please, more in put from other anti's. hugggz, Suzanne I say no. I mean what's the point?? People who want to read here as guests are able to do so, so the message is still getting out there without having to put up with attacks from pro-dp people who just want to cause trouble. The energy put in to dealing with the trouble makers that come here could be better spent elsewhere, imo, like writing a letter of support to a DR inmate or a judge or polititian. I consider arguing with the pro-dp people who come here to be a complete waste of time. People make up their minds in their own good time, and sometimes engaging them in argument only makes them dig their heels in further. Somebody here mentioned Dio's name. You know what, Dio was FOR the execution of Tookie Williams. I only know him from his posts on that specific case... but it made me sick. I personally don't want to deal with those people. I'm sick of it. They all remind me of Bush.
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