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Post by freerob on Jun 7, 2005 13:36:41 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if anyone is civilized. KILL someone in the UK and you WILL see a HUGE difference between the UK and YOU people!!! At LEAST we will not MURDER YOU! Yes, you will DIE in jail, but you will NOT be MURDERED by the UK Government. Get me?
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Post by ela on Jun 7, 2005 13:44:36 GMT -5
I am sorry to repeat this... but we are talking about people who ( again) have on their forum a thread called "YOUR FAVOURITE EXECUTED" This shocked me. soo much I mean... do you think they can have problems to send these letters and consider it like a crime.. since they consider inmate subhuman lives form??? This is the point.... what these people have inside.... Anyway it is for sure a crime.. in Italy it would be... you are influencing people who are emotionally concerned and yes, you are encouragin suicides.
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 13:53:52 GMT -5
well, i do not think it is a crime to send DR inmates letters asking them to drop their appeals. If it were, they probably would not get the letters in the first place. However, I am not a lawyer and I will ask one. You might be right, but i doubt it.
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Post by freerob on Jun 7, 2005 14:00:24 GMT -5
INJECTOR....
Not gonna comment on my earlier post?
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 14:14:27 GMT -5
INJECTOR.... Not gonna comment on my earlier post? Well, i could get into the semantical (if that is a word) argument that the DP is not murder because murder is by definition illegal and executions are by definition legal, but I am sure you have heard that one many times. Americans do care about our citizens, that is why we have the DP. However, I think countries are artifical human constucts, and i am not ultra-nationalistic. I thus do not want to argue which country is superior. I did not vote for Bush, but I would not equate him with Saddam. There is no difference between us and YOU people. We are all HUMAN.
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Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 7, 2005 17:01:02 GMT -5
Well, i could get into the semantical (if that is a word) argument that the DP is not murder because murder is by definition illegal and executions are by definition legal, but I am sure you have heard that one many times. Americans do care about our citizens, that is why we have the DP. However, I think countries are artifical human constucts, and i am not ultra-nationalistic. I thus do not want to argue which country is superior. I did not vote for Bush, but I would not equate him with Saddam. There is no difference between us and YOU people. We are all HUMAN. its all a queston of definition ..u can legalize almost everything by definition....like apartheid and slavery and gasyfiying jewish people and sh*t.....calling something legal just camouflages the facts and doesnt make things any better...know what i mean.....and well America doesnt really seem to care about its citizens when it comes to the DP..it just keeps annihilating those it wants to get rid off..its really like a capitulation..like "oh gawd we cant get a grip on our inner problems...dang lets just kill em all and camouflage it as justice"...yes thats a "solution" but what a poor one and what a shame for such a great country..... Mo-DAWG
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Post by ela on Jun 7, 2005 17:05:10 GMT -5
Well, i could get into the semantical (if that is a word) argument that the DP is not murder because murder is by definition illegal and executions are by definition legal, but I am sure you have heard that one many times. Americans do care about our citizens, that is why we have the DP. However, I think countries are artifical human constucts, and i am not ultra-nationalistic. I thus do not want to argue which country is superior. I did not vote for Bush, but I would not equate him with Saddam. There is no difference between us and YOU people. We are all HUMAN. ... And we are ALL human except that for Inmates... that only deserve to die... right?
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 17:10:55 GMT -5
... And we are ALL human except that for Inmates... that only deserve to die... right? I have always maintained that DR inmates are humans. We execute them BECAUSE they are human and thus subject to a human code of justice that is uniquely applicable to people. Executions are therefore not analogous to killing rabid animals. Indeed, executions REAFFIRM the humanity of the murderer.
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Post by ela on Jun 7, 2005 17:15:37 GMT -5
ohhh...executions are not like killing animals?? Executing someone is treathing him lika an human being? In Italy, the drugs you use for letal injection, have been BANNED even for veterinarians... to kill old and sick horses...
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 17:23:29 GMT -5
ohhh...executions are not like killing animals?? Executing someone is treathing him lika an human being? In Italy, the drugs you use for letal injection, have been BANNED even for veterinarians... to kill old and sick horses... I think old sick horses are more sacred than human murderers.
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 17:25:09 GMT -5
I think old sick horses are more sacred than human murderers. I did not mean that to degrade anyone's penpal by the way. I just really love animals.
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Post by ela on Jun 7, 2005 17:26:07 GMT -5
I have no doubts you think this... and... with this.. you have just denied what you had said 3 minutes ago... that we are all huma beings. And yes... horses are precious... in fact we don't kill them here with the same drug YOU there use to kill people...
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Post by antideathpen67 on Jun 7, 2005 17:31:30 GMT -5
I have no doubts you think this... and... with this.. you have just denied what you had said 3 minutes ago... that we are all huma beings. And yes... horses are precious... in fact we don't kill them here with the same drug YOU there use to kill people... Oh I think he was referring to other nations with "we are all humans"... in the opinion of most pro's the men and women on DR are not human anymore...
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Post by injector on Jun 7, 2005 17:32:09 GMT -5
I have no doubts you think this... and... with this.. you have just denied what you had said 3 minutes ago... that we are all huma beings. And yes... horses are precious... in fact we don't kill them here with the same drug YOU there use to kill people... Being human does not nessasarily mean that you have an inalienable right to life. My belief that horses are more valuble than some people does not logically contradict my statement that we are all humans.
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Post by ela on Jun 7, 2005 17:38:46 GMT -5
and here our deabate can be closed. As i said before there is not one single life that weighs more than another one, and for me, yes, RIGHT TO LIFE is universal. I't s for you.. please don't go around saying that we are all human beings when you want to see some of these human beings dead.... this is just incoherent.
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