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Post by lene on Jun 6, 2005 4:26:09 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is really getting a bit ticked by all of those who are posting things only to get us all pumped up and argue? I totally understand the value of debate and I am fine with that. But it is really getting to me when some people only post and make comments in order to make the rest of us mad and upset. Am I alone in this thought? No, you are not the only one. I wish it was possible to debate something without getting side tracked all the time. I wish we could discuss things without the personal attacks - and that goes for pros and antis. I also wish it was possible to post something without wondering if it will find its way to all sorts of other sites. And I also think that what is on other sites should stay there and not find its way over here.
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Post by ela on Jun 6, 2005 4:46:51 GMT -5
What I wanted to say from the beginnig was: I am an anti death penalty person and I am on an ANTI death penalty forum I am in the right place. Of course pro death penalty people are welcome, as guest, but please don't come here to tell us what to write. And I am sorry if we offend you. But I can not go in a place that is not my place and after "cry" becouse I am offended. If you like what we say you are wlcome, otherwise, just go. This is not a place for debating, this is a place to SUPPORT families and friends of inmates; what we do on here is not something we can discuss about; or you like or you don't like. And this is not hypocrite, I behave the same way. I know that it would offend me to stay on a pro death penalty forum, in fact I DON'T GO THERE. ... And about my job.. YOU TRULY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, SO PLEASE, SHUT UP.
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Post by lene on Jun 6, 2005 5:09:00 GMT -5
I agree with everything you say ela, but to be fair, you brought in your job.
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Post by catskillz on Jun 6, 2005 5:57:06 GMT -5
The very last thing i'll say on this..
U say u have respect for ALL the victims...
If u really would have that u wouldn't be cheering executions and posting comments like u do on the pro-board.
I find it inappropriate to then register, start posting all over the board, and then state u do have respect for them with the argument that u do not call them names here.
Respect is not all about calling names, that is what i wanted to tell u earlier. Your attitude on the pro-board MEANS u don't have respect, if u don't realise that i feel sorry for u. Anyone with respect for them would not post such things. It has nothing to do with pro or anti DP, it's just stupidity. U saying here that u do respect them sounds like a bad joke to me. With behavior u show u really have it, words alone mean nothing.
I'd be ashamed when i was a well thinking pro that actually wanted to achieve something, without credibility amongst the thinking people u won't achive anything (thats a free tip..) for that matter, i really don't bother with your personal opinions.. u can attack and copy me all over the net.. i don't care, i stand for what i say and will repeat it everywhere if asked.
I do respect you having your place where u can share some of your twisted views and vent at people, just don't bring it here when u ain't sincere. Anyone who SHOWS REAL respect from either side is welcome here as far as i'm concerned.
Over and out.
Catz
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Post by jj on Jun 6, 2005 6:18:13 GMT -5
I get offended when antis talk about how the poor inmates are treated. That was not meant to start anything either..if you can talk about what you get offended by, why cant we? These "inmates" are not just names, they are real to us and when we go to visitation and see the abuse,...yes, see it!!!!!! You bet we are going to complain and get upset. When TDCJ cut the calories of food to save money and I go and watch my husband loose weight because he 1) does not get enough food to sustain him and 2) what he does get he hardly can eat when he finds worms in his food. I AM GOING TO GET UPSET. When I go to visit and I see bruises all over his wrists because the guards think it's funny to make the cuffs tight, I GET UPSET. To you i'ts a "minor" thing. To me it's a big thing. I know prison isn't supposed to be a cake walk. But that doesn't mean that they have to be abused either. I, and I'm sure many others here, can give you examples of little things that do not need to be done and we are going to complain. I mean, when they are cuffed to go to the shower and are tripped on the way just to watch them fall without having the ability to use their arms to help themselves.... THAT IS ABUSE. Want more examples? If I come here and am upset about a letter I got from my husband because of something he talked about that happened (Like the guards gassing so much he has to keep a wet towel over his head to even breath and they arn't even near his cell), I don't want to hear that it upsets you. I am venting with others that know where I am coming from and will let me talk. That's called support and that is what this site is about...SUPPORT. I need to go befor I get angrier and say something I shouldn't say.
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Post by lene on Jun 6, 2005 7:03:43 GMT -5
I could have said it better myself, Joy!
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Post by damaris on Jun 6, 2005 8:06:54 GMT -5
I agree with ela 100%. This is an anti death penalty site so there should be no one saying that they celebrate executions. If you don't like what us antis are saying then don't come on here!
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Post by jojo29 on Jun 6, 2005 14:48:30 GMT -5
Geeze a girl goes to one class and her post turns into a book.
Ok, listen my point was that all of the pro's here have to understand something (and this is not picking one person, I am saying all) like Joy said these are people to us. Husbands, brothers, fathers, boyfriends ect and we care about them and how they are treated. We have to right to do that and we have the right to have a safe place to come and vent with others who understand because they are going through the same thing. I have never gone to a pro site and won't go there either. Why? Because it is not what I believe. Please just understand that we care about these people and take this all to heart. I honestly don't know why any pro would want to be here, unless they wanted to start trouble. I mean why fight with us? It has been said a million times, this is a support system to those of us who have loved ones in the system. What does it do for you to attack us? Today has been down right awful for me. Bobby's Supreme Court cert was denied so I am VERY touchy about all of this today and I really won't take any more attacks.
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Post by injector on Jun 6, 2005 16:22:20 GMT -5
Geeze a girl goes to one class and her post turns into a book. Ok, listen my point was that all of the pro's here have to understand something (and this is not picking one person, I am saying all) like Joy said these are people to us. Husbands, brothers, fathers, boyfriends ect and we care about them and how they are treated. We have to right to do that and we have the right to have a safe place to come and vent with others who understand because they are going through the same thing. I have never gone to a pro site and won't go there either. Why? Because it is not what I believe. Please just understand that we care about these people and take this all to heart. I honestly don't know why any pro would want to be here, unless they wanted to start trouble. I mean why fight with us? It has been said a million times, this is a support system to those of us who have loved ones in the system. What does it do for you to attack us? Today has been down right awful for me. Bobby's Supreme Court cert was denied so I am VERY touchy about all of this today and I really won't take any more attacks. Are you talking about Robert Fratta? I saw a show about him on American Justice on A&E.
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Post by jojo29 on Jun 7, 2005 9:27:29 GMT -5
Yes, Bobby is my fiancee
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