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Post by freerob on Jun 24, 2005 13:57:04 GMT -5
I am so sorry about the loss of your mum. You are very kind Tracy, thank you. I don't want this to be about me and stuff, I just wanted to examine the grief element. For me, I am still struggling so hard with it. I feel like a pair of scissors and the other half is gone. FOREVER. Then I think about the victims families of murder and how THEY feel. OMG. No doubt a zillion times worse. Grief is grief. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Suffice to say, this is WHY I am against the DP. The PAIN of losing those you love is immeasurable. My love Miles xxx |
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Post by injector on Jun 24, 2005 14:01:19 GMT -5
Agnosticism differs from atheism in that it acknowledges the possibility that there might be a divine force. I claim to have no knowledge of the mysteries of the cosmos, and I therefore cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no god. (if I said that there was no god, I would be claiming to have some absolute knowledge of origins of the universe) In other words, I doubt there is a divine mind, but I realize that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Agnostics also maintain that if there is a god, it is probably unknowable. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist. |
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Post by catskillz on Jun 24, 2005 14:12:18 GMT -5
Agnosticism differs from atheism in that it acknowledges the possibility that there might be a divine force. I claim to have no knowledge of the mysteries of the cosmos, and I therefore cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no god. (if I said that there was no god, I would be claiming to have some absolute knowledge of origins of the universe) In other words, I doubt there is a divine mind, but I realize that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Agnostics also maintain that if there is a god, it is probably unknowable. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist. Thanks, me too. I rule out something that can be described as a mind or purpose, i do think there are many many many things we are unaware of and uncapable of (mostly) because we are unaware and reversed). We use only a very very very small part of our brain! Try eat a mushroom someday it'll expose just a tiny little more of that brain (only a bit), which used to be closely related to religious practices by the mayas, incas and others, but that as a sidenote. |
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Post by injector on Jun 24, 2005 14:19:15 GMT -5
Agnosticism differs from atheism in that it acknowledges the possibility that there might be a divine force. I claim to have no knowledge of the mysteries of the cosmos, and I therefore cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no god. (if I said that there was no god, I would be claiming to have some absolute knowledge of origins of the universe) In other words, I doubt there is a divine mind, but I realize that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Agnostics also maintain that if there is a god, it is probably unknowable. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist. Thanks, me too. I rule out something that can be described as a mind or purpose, i do think there are many many many things we are unaware of and uncapable of (mostly) because we are unaware and reversed). We use only a very very very small part of our brain! Try eat a mushroom someday it'll expose just a tiny little more of that brain (only a bit), which used to be closely related to religious practices by the mayas, incas and others, but that as a sidenote. I have eaten my fair share of mushrooms. Some of the best shrooms I have ever had were in Amsterdam. I also have done my fair share of LSD. I do not use drugs anymore (I got heavily into methamphetamines and eventually went to jail), but I think psychedelics are a good thing. If given the chance, I would do peyote in heartbeat. Always wanted to try that. |
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miscmood
Doin' Time
If the world is night, shine my life like a light
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Post by miscmood on Jun 24, 2005 14:21:04 GMT -5
Agnosticism differs from atheism in that it acknowledges the possibility that there might be a divine force. I claim to have no knowledge of the mysteries of the cosmos, and I therefore cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no god. (if I said that there was no god, I would be claiming to have some absolute knowledge of origins of the universe) In other words, I doubt there is a divine mind, but I realize that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Agnostics also maintain that if there is a god, it is probably unknowable. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist. God can be described in many different ways, and you have kept open a very important doorway by acknowledging that you might be wrong. God, as spirit, by whichever name he is called (and I use "he" only loosely as it's awkward saying "it") is genderless. I have stated that I am a Christian, but I do have a very uncommon faith structure because I allow room for ALL of humankind to experience an afterlife, regardless of whether a person chooses to believe or not. For myself, since I admire Christ so very much, I long to emulate him on my path here, but believe all souls go to what is popularly called "heaven". I have had out-of-body experiences ever since I was a child and have seen glimpses of what going back to the Source is like. It is ALL about love in its purest form and it is there for each and every one of us. Having scientific proof is not essential for a solid faith structure. If one had "proof", then faith would not be necessary. |
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Post by freerob on Jun 24, 2005 15:17:45 GMT -5
Agnosticism differs from atheism in that it acknowledges the possibility that there might be a divine force. I claim to have no knowledge of the mysteries of the cosmos, and I therefore cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no god. (if I said that there was no god, I would be claiming to have some absolute knowledge of origins of the universe) In other words, I doubt there is a divine mind, but I realize that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Agnostics also maintain that if there is a god, it is probably unknowable. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist. God can be described in many different ways, and you have kept open a very important doorway by acknowledging that you might be wrong. God, as spirit, by whichever name he is called (and I use "he" only loosely as it's awkward saying "it") is genderless. I have stated that I am a Christian, but I do have a very uncommon faith structure because I allow room for ALL of humankind to experience an afterlife, regardless of whether a person chooses to believe or not. For myself, since I admire Christ so very much, I long to emulate him on my path here, but believe all souls go to what is popularly called "heaven". I have had out-of-body experiences ever since I was a child and have seen glimpses of what going back to the Source is like. It is ALL about love in its purest form and it is there for each and every one of us. Having scientific proof is not essential for a solid faith structure. If one had "proof", then faith would not be necessary. WOW. interesting that no one here comments on your post. Good for you Miscmood! |
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Post by catskillz on Jun 25, 2005 3:15:14 GMT -5
Having scientific proof is not essential for a solid faith structure. If one had "proof", then faith would not be necessary. WOW. interesting that no one here comments on your post. Good for you Miscmood! Because i do agree with misc  It's just that faith for me doesn't apply to religion, i put faith in other things  p.s. miles can u check back on the other thread where u saiud my reply was sad.. im still wondering what u mean with that! |
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Post by freerob on Jun 25, 2005 4:33:42 GMT -5
WOW. interesting that no one here comments on your post. Good for you Miscmood! Because i do agree with misc It's just that faith for me doesn't apply to religion, i put faith in other things p.s. miles can u check back on the other thread where u saiud my reply was sad.. im still wondering what u mean with that! hey catz, am trying to find that thread urghhh..... no luck so far! I think I simply meant that those without a religeous faith that do not believe is sad to me. Not that YOU, the person are. But each to our own eh? We can't all share the same beliefs. I certainly did not mean any offense ok? Kind regards Miles |
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Post by catskillz on Jun 25, 2005 5:02:13 GMT -5
Because i do agree with misc It's just that faith for me doesn't apply to religion, i put faith in other things p.s. miles can u check back on the other thread where u saiud my reply was sad.. im still wondering what u mean with that! hey catz, am trying to find that thread urghhh..... no luck so far! I think I simply meant that those without a religeous faith that do not believe is sad to me. Not that YOU, the person are. But each to our own eh? We can't all share the same beliefs. I certainly did not mean any offense ok? Yes i thought u meant that, but could have been in response to something specific that's why i asked  Offense, lol nah  |
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Post by oztash on Jun 25, 2005 7:27:17 GMT -5
I am a christian and Iam raising my boys to have strong christian faith, and sending them to a christian school.... Iam the only christian in my family and get teased a bit from my brothers...My mum, dad and brothers are all atheist... My dad died last yr, and I regret that I didnt know my dad very well, my brothers and I called him Graham.... My parent divorced when I was 12 months old, and till his death only saw him several times... Dad was a violent alcholic who lived in a boarding house with 12 other ppl, all with own rooms.... When he died it was thought to be suspiouses, he had bruising all over face, and a blow to temple which killed him...The coroner took weeks to say what cause of death was, but in the end she said was a hit in the head, caused by heavy drinking and falling over and hitting head on table.... He weas only 51.....I pray death brings the peace that life never could.
Tasha
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It's just that faith for me doesn't apply to religion, i put faith in other things 
