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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 7:04:30 GMT -5
I currently live in Maine Formerly employed with Florida State Prison
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Post by moghirl on Jun 8, 2005 10:14:31 GMT -5
Hiya, how long were you employed with FSP? I gather from your name you're Pro DP I 'm opposed to it ,as are most of us here, so i trust you 're not intending to hurt anyone who has a family member or friend waiting to be murdered by the State. It'll be very enlightening to hear about your work ,which i do hope you'll share, as i'm certain everyone will be interested in your experiences. Welcome to this Board Mo.
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 10:19:22 GMT -5
I would never do such a thing I am pro DP , That is a fact I will not deny but i am not an extremist and consider myself very openminded what i did for FSP Is listed in the debate section under the topic " hmm this is it huh ? "
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Mo-DAWG
Settlin' In
Yes... this is the real Mo-DAWG ..
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 8, 2005 10:32:38 GMT -5
I currently live in Maine Formerly employed with Florida State Prison heeey whazzup...welcome to the board.... Mo-DAWG
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Post by CCADP on Jun 8, 2005 11:29:01 GMT -5
Hi there and welcome to the board ... looking forward to getting to know you better; and hearing about your thoughts and experiences; and sharing others' with you as well... Just so u know; the whole board was always open; but many; many people had expressed concern and feelings of discomfort that it was no longer feeling like a safe place where they can gather; share info and support; and there were too many attacks just for the sake of attacking; so just a day or two ago we set the new area up in response to a thread that someone made asking us to bring this back to a 'coalition' and concerns that others had expressed.... We have only ever banned one ISP (the one who on the pro site left all kinds of obscene attacks against victims family members and victims). Before that BentyProDP was banned for 24 hrs for insensitive comments to direct family members after their loved one was executed. I reinstated him without being asked the very next day when he and I reached an understanding with each other (he hasn't returned since he left both boards but did thank us for the way we dealt with him and the situation). Unlike the pro board where I and several others have been banned for no reason; we do not ban people for their opinions here again thanks for joining us just wanted to clear the reasons up.... tracy
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 11:44:33 GMT -5
TY very much Tracy I am familiar with Benty I had actually come here on a whim I had heard other pros who are a bit extremist bash this board over and over and curiousity got the better of me I decided to just be honest about who I am and what I had to do for a living for The State of Florida
Fully expecting to be banned for that reason aloneI mean if there are family members here who's relative I helped put to death I would expect they would be horrorfied by my presence and Id definately understand that but everyone here has been respectful and nice despite who I am and ty
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Post by CCADP on Jun 8, 2005 12:00:03 GMT -5
Its all of us who work with and or on behalf of prisoners that can reach understandings that others who have never seen the reality of this issue; can't. I appreciate very much your honesty and openness; and I am sure that others would also. it might be hard if it was a particular family member that had a loved one that you were involved in; but no harder than it would be for Shawni on the pro board to have to hear from a penpal or someone concerned with the fate of the (Now dead) killer of her dad. This is a hard issue; for those that have lived or worked with the reality of it; its blood and horror and tears. On all sides. Its NOT glamorous; this death row thing; its horrible; the things that brought a lot of the guys/girls there are horrible; and in my view the death penalty system is just as horrible. I considered that last sentence cause many will jump on it; but I truly believe a system; a govt; empowered to kill its own citizens cannot be trusted to do whats right; even with the best intentions. They can't get the mail delivered on time smile.... We are not blinded to what these people have done; neither do we think they are all innocent (some who say on the pages that they are; are actually and others are definately NOT innocent) - but they are human beings; and in the past I wouldn't have felt I had to say that; but I have been so; so disturbed by the anger and hatred and refusal to admit any kind of humanity "it" "mutt" on the pro board. I am sure that someone who worked closely with prisoners - and has seen the worst of the worst and I am sure some surprising nice and human moments too - knows its not as easy as all that. I know some pros think we all want to fight LWOP next and that might be true of some but; I am a passionate supporter of TRUE LWOP in those cases where it is deserved and needed for protection of society. If that wasnt true I'd leave the US and Saudi Arabia; Trnidad etc alone and concentrate on freeing prisoners in Canada - but we DON'T cause we are all for punishment and protecting society - we just KNOW through Canada's and others experiences that where the justice system doesn't cut corners and screw up; the right people can be put away and society protected without debasing itself... I can't understand how much hatred and vitriol there is against us at the pro site - I guess its cause we are effective; because we had never ever been there until about two months ago and apparantely they have been talking about and bashing us all alone for yeeeeeaaaaars
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 8, 2005 12:11:48 GMT -5
Yes I understand that Tracy but at the pro site they think you feel the same way about them and say that you viciously hate them and bash them all the time its kind of both ways sad but true so much misunderstanding and hatred between the two boards
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Post by CCADP on Jun 8, 2005 12:19:08 GMT -5
Like I said; we never gave them a thought til a month or two ago when we set this board up. Never had any contact with them except a nice girl I spke to outside of a 2000 Texecution.
When people sent me the links to them bashing us; and I did not know WHO these people were; it led us to reading the rest of some of the messages there we were SHOCKED to read that stuff on what we used to consider a serious victims support group - THATS when we made the thread JFA/JUSTICE FOR ALL. To explain the fact that this is NOT a healthy group for victims seeking support; but that it is a hate group in actuality. I have given chances for people there to engage in serious telvised debates; they have refused and instead posted asinine things like I started CCADP cause I have a death row boyfriend; (huh!? My husband Dave and I - long human rights activists - founded CCADP together in 98 - posting pics of me pregnant from a TV appearance with comments about weight; saying we must be on welfare (umm; we are 35 both work unrelated full time jobs and own our own home); verbally harrasing a 12 YEAR OLD from the UK who innocently visited their student area; and a lot of way; way over the top stuff. Again; before we even knew who they were! They often make wild claims about us; our pages; our beliefs and our motivations. I'd like to know WHERE I have EVER done such a thing about ANYONE. All I have done is post their comments from there; here; to make people aware of what we are dealing with and the level of debate; and so that media who often troll our site (see the media requests section 20/20 , 60 Minutes etc for the caliber) can see what they are all about. I have not made a thing up or slandered one person. EVER. and NO one can say that I have. OR that CCADP has. They are playing schoolyard games; we're not into it....
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Post by CCADP on Jun 8, 2005 12:58:13 GMT -5
are u still working in criminal justice ?
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Post by forbiddenterritory on Jun 8, 2005 19:04:17 GMT -5
Electricchairusa so this is where you have been hiding. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 11, 2005 7:14:20 GMT -5
and who would u be on the other board ?
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 11, 2005 7:15:29 GMT -5
Yes Tracy i am still working in the prison system
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Post by ela on Jun 11, 2005 7:19:35 GMT -5
uhm... so you might help me with my questions about inmate visiting application??? ;D Write me a private message if you can help I' be grateful... I am italian and really out from your rules... thx
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Post by electricchairusa on Jun 11, 2005 7:46:57 GMT -5
I would suggest ela if you know the prisoner you want to visit and which facility they are incarcerated in go to the website of that states correctional webpage they almost always will list info on visitation
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