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Post by damaris on May 1, 2005 18:50:59 GMT -5
yes ela, as long as it is respectful.
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Post by Maggie on May 2, 2005 15:42:55 GMT -5
I said on this board when I first joined that it was the Scott Peterson case that changed my mind on the DP.... but it wasn't JUST Scott Peterson.... it was the all the things I've learned the last two years, and the CCADP site was a big part of that. I have learned so much that I have hope that others can learn too, and for that reason I say keep it open.
If somebody comes to bash, then they can be banned. If somebody comes to learn.... then we can help them ;D
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Post by barry on May 2, 2005 20:47:35 GMT -5
you will find that most antis and pros have more things in common then differences.
I agree, any abusive postings should warrant the person responsisble being warned, then banned.
NO PERSONAL ATTACKS - THAT IS DEGRADING TO EVERYONE
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Post by Turid on May 3, 2005 16:51:36 GMT -5
Hi,
I've been away for a couple of days, so I haven't seen this thread before right now. It should be possible to have 1 open part of the forum where anyone may post whether they are pro dp or anti dp. (IF that is something Tracy & Dave would like to add), But perhaps the other parts of this forum should be for the antis only?
Just a suggestion: 1 open part of the forum could be for everyone, called something like "Open Forum" or something. The other parts could be for the antis only?
--Turid
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Post by Turid on May 3, 2005 16:54:03 GMT -5
you will find that most antis and pros have more things in common then differences. I agree, any abusive postings should warrant the person responsisble being warned, then banned. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS - THAT IS DEGRADING TO EVERYONE I agree 100%. Abuse, foul language, name calling, or any disrespect in any shape or form should not at all be tolerated. This is after all an anti-dp site and an anti-dp organization is running it. I would never put up with bashing or disrespect whatsoever. --Turid
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Post by Turid on May 3, 2005 19:52:29 GMT -5
I agree 100% in what you mean. The more information we can get out, the better! No doubt about that whatsoever!
One section of this forum is password protected, because it's meant for prisoners immediate families. I'm sure they would appreciate to be able to contact each other, to talk, share feelings and experiences without having pro death penalty people reading what they say. I can't speak for them, but I believe I'm not totally wrong in assuming they will have that specific section for themselves.
My suggestion was to have one or several sections open for everyone and keep some for the antis.
I would not put up with any disrespect, no bashing, no foul language, name calling or any of that sort in a forum hosted by an anti-death penalty group. If you go to a pro-death penalty forum, I can promise you will be bashed there!! (However, there seems to be a few who don't find it so interesting to be bashing people....). My point is that - what I would like - was that this forum was foremost a place where antis could go and a place we "are at home".
Whenever we go to a pro site, it's a different matter. Although I don't run this forum, I "feel as" if I am in my right place here, and BECAUSE I have every intention to treat any pro death penalty person with the same amount of respect as I expect for myself, I consider a pro death penalty person a guest here, and the antis as being somewhat "at home". If that made much sense.....
Respect is a two way thing. Still - we should keep some discussion for ourselves. The pros are also doing that.
--Love, Turid
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Post by jj on May 3, 2005 20:10:18 GMT -5
I am becoming very protective of this site. Having been on another "Pro" board, even though they spout words, they hurt deeply and I don't want anyone to hurt like that. So, big sister will be watching
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Post by antideathpen67 on May 3, 2005 21:29:42 GMT -5
I am becoming very protective of this site. Having been on another "Pro" board, even though they spout words, they hurt deeply and I don't want anyone to hurt like that. So, big sister will be watching I agree... they are scary at times... not all but many...
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Post by damaris on May 5, 2005 9:55:41 GMT -5
Yes, I agree with Joy. I am a member of a pro website and they like to say bad things directly to people who have relationships with men on deathrow. They like to do personal attacks which I don't agree with so I feel that any pro who says anything bad to someone should be banned because this website was not made for personal attacks.
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Post by Turid on May 5, 2005 10:35:45 GMT -5
Well.. communication and respect are the basis I try to build my life on... Respect means also try to communicate with people who have an opposite point of view from mine.. it's hard but it's what i try to do. So, for what it can count, it's ok for me to open the forum to everyone, but don't forget that we try first of all to support ALL people who deal with death row... so it's ok if it's done under respect.. the same thing I try to give to everyone.... do u think it's possible?? Ela I agree with you, Ela. Well put. Perhaps it's possible to have a few sections that's only for antis and others for general discussion with everyone? There are times when antis like myself and others need to vent with other antis only, and I would be damned if everything I wrote for such people was subject to ridicule from pros. However, I also think it's a very good idea to let pros speak as long as they know they're guests here and treat everyone with the respect any person deserves. (That goes for both sides of the issue of course). AND: We might all learn something from each other. I don't really know how it's possible to work to abolish the death penalty if we conseqently refuse to discuss with the pros approaching us in a respectful manner. Once they don't - it's an entirely different matter of course. And as you say: It IS hard. But by refusing, I'm afraid we are creating a situation which means that we won't ever find any common ground to use as a fundament for further discussion. However, I feel confident that Tracy and Dave's idea was to create a forum for antis to be discussing and a safe place for us to come together and talk. Both suggestions are possible. And I absolutely agree with you, ela! Love, Turid
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Post by mustangsally on May 8, 2005 11:01:29 GMT -5
I missed this post ,perhaps I need to learn to hit the page 2 place at the bottom of page 1 . LOL Blond moment .
I believe everyone can learn from everyone else { anti and pros alike} as long as it can be kept respectful .I have been to the pro site and it is offensive how some act on there. I have a friend,who was a pro , and for the longest time we agreed to disagree but as the years passed she seen my side of the arguement and is now an anti. We have the power to change peoples minds but it is all in the way we choose to do it. I am not a combative person by nature ,just the kind who quietly works in the background but I do get results. I agree some places should be open to pros and some shouldn't because we go through enough grief because of our choices without having somewhere we can go that is safe for us to let our hair down, so to speak.
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Post by angel on May 8, 2005 11:20:28 GMT -5
After having had some dealing with pros via phone/e-mail, i'd say the ones from my experience at least, were not rational and the conversations were not productive. I've been called evil and a monster, trash and the list goes on....I would suggest that if you do have an open forum, that some ground rules be laid as to respect and dignity of others.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on May 8, 2005 11:45:37 GMT -5
A couple people have emailed me about the postings from pro death penalty people; feeling that this should be a safe/non argumentative forum only for anti death penalty people. Let me know if most of you want that; and if so; I can delete the posts and registrations of those who post pro death penalty messages. Remember; all people who visit the messageboard whether pro anti or neither could read all messages except the password boards (family members and CCADP members). I've allowed anyone to post as long as they were not disrespectful or bashing a particular prisoner etc; but I'm not sure what you guys think. Please let me know - allow all posts; or delete pro death penalty ones / people. what do you prefer ? I leave it to you guys and majority will rule; its your board! well sum of us discuss on the pro-site, if they wanna discuss with us here too let em come...me personally i have no prob with that....discussions about the DP are always welcome with me...of course sum posts could get very low level or insulting...again i say SO WHAT...if anyone wants it he can have it, here or on da Pro DP site....i don´t care...wherever and whenever ya want buddy Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on May 8, 2005 12:12:01 GMT -5
I am becoming very protective of this site. Having been on another "Pro" board, even though they spout words, they hurt deeply and I don't want anyone to hurt like that. So, big sister will be watching let anybody spout whatever they want Joy...but "does the moon care the dog barking at him? " all this bow wow wow is just a desperate try to insult if a person feels he can´t "defeat" ya another way anymore......so you´ve already "won" (always thought a discussion doesn´t need winners though) when they need to start spitting foam not to feel as the losing one ;D.... Mo-DAWG
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Post by sockratts on May 8, 2005 17:06:44 GMT -5
Allow all posts. If anything maybe make a specific place to choose to read thier comments. But would it be right to not hear them? After all, its these people i assume that help put and keep the DP in effect. We need thier insight ie;fire, to help us ie; water, to douse da flames.....If we don't know where the fire is, how are we to help put it out? thanks joe
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