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Post by pumpkinpie on Feb 13, 2009 21:49:27 GMT -5
Darlie killed the boys, faked an attack on herself and hoped she could get away with it. Hi Big lin! Nice to see you back here again!
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Post by chiefinspector on Jul 26, 2009 14:15:22 GMT -5
DNA exhortations warrant expanded use of DNA testing. The majority of DNA tests confirm guilt and are little more than a fishing expedition for most inmates. Inmates often wait until all other appeals or arguments have failed because a positive DNA result could undermine all their arguments. Once they have nothing to lose they request DNA testing, in most cases just hoping for a mistake at the lab or in a death penalty case it's just another appeal to keep the sentence from being carried out for a few months. Expand DNA testing but require it to be commenced within a certain length of time from the point it should be known it may provide evidence of innocence. Require a waiver of all appeals on the matter of guilt, if the DNA confirms guilt, an execution date should be immediately set.
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Post by arizonavet on Dec 29, 2010 12:20:57 GMT -5
DNA exhonerations do merit a death penalty moratorium. Texas, however, with the frontier mentality so apparent, will continue to execute indescriminately. It will take an outcry from the public in that State to change public perceptions of the death penalty. I doubt that anyone sees this on the horizon. Execute indescriminately? No, the absense of DNA, is no "(reverse) smoking gun" as proof of innocence. Also, DNA is usually worthless in murders not involving rape.. then, it only shows that ONE of the perpetrators has not left DNA on the victim... The murderer could very well have (as in the case of the aforementioned Ruben Cantu) been very much involved in the murder without being involved in the rape, or he could have worn a condom.....not totally rare among rapists. Texas certainly does not "execute indescriminatly"....they execute only a small percentage of murderers...only the worst of the worst.... I do understand the false assumption, when the execution of any murderer is so repugnant to many people.....I was an anti for most of my adult life. I honestly understand.....I've just come to a different set of priorities concerning the death penalty....I chose to (potentially)err on the side of the worst of the worst convicted murderers,...rather than the innocent victims.
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Post by happyhaddock on Dec 29, 2010 15:57:15 GMT -5
Texas certainly does not "execute indescriminatly"....they execute only a small percentage of murderers...only the worst of the worst.... Like most states, Texas applies the death penalty to the weakest cases. The worst of the worst often plead out.
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Post by arizonavet on Dec 30, 2010 12:32:58 GMT -5
Texas certainly does not "execute indescriminatly"....they execute only a small percentage of murderers...only the worst of the worst.... Like most states, Texas applies the death penalty to the weakest cases. The worst of the worst often plead out. It's true, that many murderers plead guilty to avoid the death penalty... (this is one of the main reasons I'm pro-dp) Still, it's no guarantee of avoiding the dp......sometimes the crime was so horriffic, or the killer so dangerous (even for prison)....that the state demands the dp. I honestly don't see most, if any of the convictions as in any way "weak". Condemned murderers have, many times been saved & resentenced to LWOP, or even simple "life" because a judge or governor, just didn't think the case, although successfully prosecuted was sure enough to allow the execution to continue. I've read about them & personally agreed....one must be as sure as humanly possible.
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Post by happyhaddock on Dec 30, 2010 16:44:29 GMT -5
I honestly don't see most, if any of the convictions as in any way "weak". How is it that Darlie Routier is on death row while T Cullen Davis AND Robert "Bobby" Durst both walked out of court? Money talks?
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Post by arizonavet on Jan 3, 2011 12:55:44 GMT -5
I honestly don't see most, if any of the convictions as in any way "weak". How is it that Darlie Routier is on death row while T Cullen Davis AND Robert "Bobby" Durst both walked out of court? Money talks? Thought provoking reply HH... The jury in the Durst trial, like the OJ Simpson trial should have been hung by their thumbs. Davis was a bit less obvious....but probably guilty. Throw in Patty Hurst for good measure. Ability to "buy" a jury is undeniable, but it's no guarantee. I personally believe, after living in other countries, that America's laws & prosecutions are one of the most wealth-blind examples there are. I wouldn't execute Darlie Router....I lived near where she killed her children Damon & Devon, near Roulette. Plenty of evidence to be found guilty....not sufficient to warrant the death penalty. Did you know that T. Cullen Davis became a Christian Missionary?.....gag!
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