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Post by erick on Dec 2, 2005 16:33:41 GMT -5
Hi Noosh! I would not classify myself as clean-cut. I was never a gangbanger, but I am a convicted felon. I have been to jail, and I know a thing or two about illegal activities. I just can't get past the fact that Williams shot and killed four people. I don't care how many books he has written in prison. He had a lot of time on his hands. How can he ask for clemency without even acknowledging his guilt?
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Post by sdl on Dec 2, 2005 17:00:40 GMT -5
why admit guilt if you are innocent?
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 17:18:03 GMT -5
Hi Noosh! I would not classify myself as clean-cut. I was never a gangbanger, but I am a convicted felon. I have been to jail, and I know a thing or two about illegal activities. I just can't get past the fact that Williams shot and killed four people. I don't care how many books he has written in prison. He had a lot of time on his hands. How can he ask for clemency without even acknowledging his guilt? hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon and i know you saw a bit of illegal activities but erick i tell you by knowint a lil bit you dont know nothing about the whole thing as such .... its very different from what "normal" people (haha ...see i dont use the word clean cut anymore...haha) tend to think about it ... ...well and you are pissed off at tookie for him not admitting his guilt to the murders ...what if hes really inoocent of murderint these people...what if they really trapped him just to get the king cuzz off the streets ... look they used an all white jury and some other things i read were kind of disturbing .. i dont know if tookie is really guilty of these killings .. im not sure ... i dont know if tookie is really innocent.. again im not sure... but i nknow i dont want him to die ... i dont want anybody to die ... and you know what ...if tookie is innocent then he of course shouldnt admit to killings he didnt commit ...... so dont get mad at the man since we dont know the real and whole truth .... i dont blindly follow the state and believe everything just because they represent the law ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by erick on Dec 2, 2005 17:28:50 GMT -5
Hi Noosh! I would not classify myself as clean-cut. I was never a gangbanger, but I am a convicted felon. I have been to jail, and I know a thing or two about illegal activities. I just can't get past the fact that Williams shot and killed four people. I don't care how many books he has written in prison. He had a lot of time on his hands. How can he ask for clemency without even acknowledging his guilt? hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon and i know you saw a bit of illegal activities but erick i tell you by knowint a lil bit you dont know nothing about the whole thing as such .... its very different from what "normal" people (haha ...see i dont use the word clean cut anymore...haha) tend to think about it ... ...well and you are pissed off at tookie for him not admitting his guilt to the murders ...what if hes really inoocent of murderint these people...what if they really trapped him just to get the king cuzz off the streets ... look they used an all white jury and some other things i read were kind of disturbing .. i dont know if tookie is really guilty of these killings .. im not sure ... i dont know if tookie is really innocent.. again im not sure... but i nknow i dont want him to die ... i dont want anybody to die ... and you know what ...if tookie is innocent then he of course shouldnt admit to killings he didnt commit ...... so dont get mad at the man since we dont know the real and whole truth .... i dont blindly follow the state and believe everything just because they represent the law ... Mo-DAWG I know that you oppose all executions. I just do not know why he should get clemency. I can understand why you want all DR inmates to not be executed, but why should this case draw so much attention? I dunno. I don't put much stock in the fact that he wrote books in prison. It is OK that you oppose the DP, but Tookie deserves the harshest penalty allowable, whatever that might be.
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Post by erick on Dec 2, 2005 17:31:24 GMT -5
Hi Noosh! I would not classify myself as clean-cut. I was never a gangbanger, but I am a convicted felon. I have been to jail, and I know a thing or two about illegal activities. I just can't get past the fact that Williams shot and killed four people. I don't care how many books he has written in prison. He had a lot of time on his hands. How can he ask for clemency without even acknowledging his guilt? hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon and i know you saw a bit of illegal activities but erick i tell you by knowint a lil bit you dont know nothing about the whole thing as such .... Noosh, do you know the whole thing about gang activity? Claiming to know the whole thing about any social phenomenon is a pretty big claim.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 17:34:36 GMT -5
hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon and i know you saw a bit of illegal activities but erick i tell you by knowint a lil bit you dont know nothing about the whole thing as such .... Noosh, do you know the whole thing about gang activity? Claiming to know the whole thing about any social phenomenon is a pretty big claim. oh god nope erick ...not thw hole thing...that would be too much to claim...i know what i know from the times i lived this kind of life ... i know my people and those they were dealing with ...friends or enemies... and i know the environments i lived in in l.a. , san D . and WI ... i know this kind of life as far as i lived it myself those years... Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 17:40:05 GMT -5
hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon and i know you saw a bit of illegal activities but erick i tell you by knowint a lil bit you dont know nothing about the whole thing as such .... its very different from what "normal" people (haha ...see i dont use the word clean cut anymore...haha) tend to think about it ... ...well and you are pissed off at tookie for him not admitting his guilt to the murders ...what if hes really inoocent of murderint these people...what if they really trapped him just to get the king cuzz off the streets ... look they used an all white jury and some other things i read were kind of disturbing .. i dont know if tookie is really guilty of these killings .. im not sure ... i dont know if tookie is really innocent.. again im not sure... but i nknow i dont want him to die ... i dont want anybody to die ... and you know what ...if tookie is innocent then he of course shouldnt admit to killings he didnt commit ...... so dont get mad at the man since we dont know the real and whole truth .... i dont blindly follow the state and believe everything just because they represent the law ... Mo-DAWG I know that you oppose all executions. I just do not know why he should get clemency. I can understand why you want all DR inmates to not be executed, but why should this case draw so much attention? I dunno. I don't put much stock in the fact that he wrote books in prison. It is OK that you oppose the DP, but Tookie deserves the harshest penalty allowable, whatever that might be. he should get clemency cuz his guilt is not 100% proven.... theres many things i feel strange about in his case ...and as i told you i dont trust the states .. esp. not in this case ... he should get clemency cuz he surely did a lot to keep people away from gang life ... he still work on doing it and so might have saved many lifes ... and last but not least...he should get clemency cuz hes a human being .... but yes if he is guilty of the killings then he should get his punishment ... i do agree with that as long as they dont kill him ... and to be honmest.. i still have the suspicion that america tries to get rid off its black leaders of all kinds in every way possible...thats why i am so suspicious about the cases of mumia and tookie as well ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by swebb on Dec 2, 2005 17:41:57 GMT -5
Noosh this is off topic but why does it say that you are a "new member and only have 19 posts and you have a new avatarzZ? What happened?
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Post by erick on Dec 2, 2005 17:44:10 GMT -5
Hi Noosh! I would not classify myself as clean-cut. I was never a gangbanger, but I am a convicted felon. I have been to jail, and I know a thing or two about illegal activities. I just can't get past the fact that Williams shot and killed four people. I don't care how many books he has written in prison. He had a lot of time on his hands. How can he ask for clemency without even acknowledging his guilt? hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon Mo-DAWG BTW, thanks for calling me an ex-felon instead of just a felon. My criminal past is a stigma that I constantly struggle with, and I truly hate part of myself for that.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 17:49:41 GMT -5
hi erick ... clean cut might be the wrong word but i guess you know what i mean ... i know you re an ex felon Mo-DAWG BTW, thanks for calling me an ex-felon instead of just a felon. My criminal past is a stigma that I constantly struggle with, and I truly hate part of myself for that. erick i dont judge people by their past or by their actions of the past...who am i to judge ... for me you definitely are en EX-felon ... and hey your criminal past is just a stigm,a as long as you allow some asses to stigmatize you ... but it seems you stigmatize yourself as well with it ... dont do that erick ..its your PAST ... you dont have to be proud of it but you dont need to be ashamed of it either ... people grow and change ... today you are not the erick you was years ago ... dont hate your past...just accept it as part of your developing process... Mo-DAWG
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 17:57:59 GMT -5
Noosh this is off topic but why does it say that you are a "new member and only have 19 posts and you have a new avatarzZ? What happened? its because i wanted to leave the boards cuz i felt it was like constantly stirring the same old sh*t without any use ...kind of stagnation ... but then i read some current posts and realized that in all the old sh*t there are also new things that need to be talked about ... so i changed my mind and returned ... and the new avatar? oh well before i used my own photograph on the avatar i used pitbulls and found a nice picv to use...but i will return to the old pitbull pic i used.. remember the pit with the lightning? Mo-DAWG
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Post by swebb on Dec 2, 2005 18:10:34 GMT -5
Noosh this is off topic but why does it say that you are a "new member and only have 19 posts and you have a new avatarzZ? What happened? its because i wanted to leave the boards cuz i felt it was like constantly stirring the same old sh*t without any use ...kind of stagnation ... but then i read some current posts and realized that in all the old sh*t there are also new things that need to be talked about ... so i changed my mind and returned ... and the new avatar? oh well before i used my own photograph on the avatar i used pitbulls and found a nice picv to use...but i will return to the old pitbull pic i used.. remember the pit with the lightning? Mo-DAWG Yeah I liked that pic and I am glad that you didn't leave. Sometimes it is good just to step back. Hey I am pissed off that the Scott Peterson debate board was deleted.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Dec 2, 2005 19:44:31 GMT -5
its because i wanted to leave the boards cuz i felt it was like constantly stirring the same old sh*t without any use ...kind of stagnation ... but then i read some current posts and realized that in all the old sh*t there are also new things that need to be talked about ... so i changed my mind and returned ... and the new avatar? oh well before i used my own photograph on the avatar i used pitbulls and found a nice picv to use...but i will return to the old pitbull pic i used.. remember the pit with the lightning? Mo-DAWG Yeah I liked that pic and I am glad that you didn't leave. Sometimes it is good just to step back. Hey I am pissed off that the Scott Peterson debate board was deleted. the one i put up? why was it deleted and WHO deleted it? i gotta find out ... Mo-DAWG
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Post by swebb on Dec 2, 2005 20:06:16 GMT -5
Yeah I liked that pic and I am glad that you didn't leave. Sometimes it is good just to step back. Hey I am pissed off that the Scott Peterson debate board was deleted. the one i put up? why was it deleted and WHO deleted it? i gotta find out ... Mo-DAWG Yeap it is gone
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Post by kathy on Dec 2, 2005 20:34:04 GMT -5
Yep the SP thread has been deleted. No one is fessing up to doing it. Guess one is not to question. We are just suppose to follow like sheep. And just when I thought we had escaped the dark ages!!
Modawg, I too am glad you did not leave. I missed seeing you post.
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