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Post by CCADP on Aug 2, 2005 9:52:34 GMT -5
Declaring an amnesty on all previously banned posters!
Why?
Well; you know we are forgiving people who don't like to use "the ultimate punishment".
So if you were banned before; it was for hateful mean behavior; and you will not be permitted to make those kinds of posts.... but you are not banned anymore.
Actual reason being a lot of people were banned in error that use AOL addresses when we banned some idiots also using AOL. Our page has been getting hundreds of thousands of hits and a lot of AOL members have emailed that they can't see the message board; so we'd rather have a few idiots here that make themselves look stupid than block out intelligent people.
So; welcome back idiots!
And welcome to the others who weren't able to access our pages due to the idiocy of others.
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Post by freerob on Aug 2, 2005 10:33:16 GMT -5
Declaring an amnesty on all previously banned posters! Why? Well; you know we are forgiving people who don't like to use "the ultimate punishment". So if you were banned before; it was for hateful mean behavior; and you will not be permitted to make those kinds of posts.... but you are not banned anymore. Actual reason being a lot of people were banned in error that use AOL addresses when we banned some idiots also using AOL. Our page has been getting hundreds of thousands of hits and a lot of AOL members have emailed that they can't see the message board; so we'd rather have a few idiots here that make themselves look stupid than block out intelligent people. So; welcome back idiots! And welcome to the others who weren't able to access our pages due to the idiocy of others. Guess it's time to put the armour back on. Sword & Shield at the ready! Yikes!
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Post by CCADP on Aug 2, 2005 11:18:15 GMT -5
delete button at the ready here
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Post by antideathpen67 on Aug 2, 2005 12:32:15 GMT -5
delete button at the ready here Tracy I could see the board, and I use AOL ... but I used the Internet explorer with the AOL connection, and that way had no problem... with the AOL browser I was lost too
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tinac
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Post by tinac on Aug 2, 2005 14:52:08 GMT -5
I think that it is great that the bans have all been lifted. After all we are a Democratic Society. Tina
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Post by janet on Aug 2, 2005 17:11:35 GMT -5
If only everyone and every place were as democratic as we are, Tracy! Do keep your finger at the ready, though!
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Post by CCADP on Aug 2, 2005 21:01:05 GMT -5
ALL posters except one. And she knows who she is.
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tinac
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Post by tinac on Aug 2, 2005 21:42:02 GMT -5
Can I make an educated guess as to who that might be?
Tina ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by freerob on Aug 2, 2005 21:43:25 GMT -5
ALL posters except one. And she knows who she is. Yay! a terrorist free zone then! KEWL!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by desperado on Aug 3, 2005 6:49:30 GMT -5
Hello fellow board members.
I found this topic irresistable... please allow me some consideration in my following explanation of my perspective.
I have belonged to and continue to belong to many message boards. I even run one of my own, though not nearly as popular, interesting or meaningful as this one.
On my board... banning is simply not allowed. I am the sole administrator... sole moderator so I guess it is easy to keep that rule in place.
Actually it isn't. There are so many times I am tempted to over ride my own integrity. So many times I am tempted to over ride my own belief in free speech, expression and tolerance... but I never do.
Granted... I do not have a board such as this... where for legitimate reasons... certain topics have to be moved or moderated... edited etc... This is an important board... with real victims of crime and DR inmates families. I respect that and recognize the difference.
I also notice however, that you do all of these things as opposed to banning. I also notice password protected topics. That is proper procedure to me. Simply weed out the bad posters in sensitive areas by making them inaccessible to those who are not mature or sensitive enough to appreciate the gravity of the topics at hand.
Since there are seemingly appropriate areas for people to debate and vent without affecting the sensitivities of real victims or family members... I am a little surprised as a new poster on such a professional site... that banning takes place at all.
As I am anti Death Penalty... I am also anti Banning. For many of the same reasons.
One might ask, "what is the correlation?" Well...to do either is to take away a basic freedom... a life... to effectively kill free expression and the life that holds such expression.
For me... It is difficult at times, but to edit or prohibit others, would be only to push my own agenda and let like minded people be heard.
I cant tell you how many demeaning names I have been called in my own board for simply having a different perspective. It is hurtful at times... especially when it is just hate... not based on facts, research or even common sense... but I let it stand.
I do this because to do otherwise would set a precedent to limit my own ability to express myself.
I have a place on my board that is called the Bitterness Basement. If absolutely necessary, I put certain peoples posts there. I never delete them... I never ban them... their freedom to express is intact.
In this way, those who choose to hear what the basement has to say can choose to go there... knowing what to expect. It does not just come up without warning, causing harm to more sensitive or involved posters.
I can not tell you how many message boards and chat rooms are out there that will ban based simply on a emotional response... an intolerance... often by those who do not fully have the capacity for any leadership what so ever. Kind of like President Bush.
Anyway.. my thoughts were that banning is bad for all concerned... it builds resentment and inhibits the free express on of ideas, emotions, thoughts, and feed back which is why most people spend time on message boards.
I was very dismayed to find out that banning occurs here.
I don't know how pro board is, but on my board you can group posters into "groupies" and configure it so they can only post in certain topics.... or sub forums.... threads etc....
In this way... they can still communicate within a board that they are drawn to, just in a more appropriate place if their view is a little too strong for sensitive areas.
I don't know how it was or is per sey in Canada. In America, in my youth the freedom of speach is paramount of most all freedoms. To be able to dissent... to speak without inhibition, compromise or punishment.
It was a self fulfilling phrophecy in that if it was not popular speach no one would listen and think you a fool, but you still had a right to express it... (Columbus once said the Earth was Round and was ridiculed, but not banned from speaking even in Italy.)
In the freedom of expressing once unpopular views, knowledge has been gained. Venturous souls allowed freedom to change the perspective of mankind.
Martin Luther King was such a man... expressing unpopular speach. Some one banned him. They did not want to hear it... it seemed harsh, insensitive and disrespectful.
We did not create this society to have you disrupt it... they collectivly said... So he was banned.
Freedom of speech is not there to protect the popular utterances of those in favor.. but rather to protect those whose speach is unpopular... and often causes dissentful disruptions among those who like the way things are... or otherwise do not want to offend those who agree with them in a flock.
It happens.. still even in America, but I am an advocate to stopping and or preventing it. Abiding by the Constitution of the United States of America and seeing that all people are free in the same way.
To express without reprisal.
Banning on a message board... is paramount to imprisoning one over a unpopular opinion... in my humble opinion.
Des
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Post by iknowcrazylady on Aug 3, 2005 7:24:30 GMT -5
I think that it is great that the bans have all been lifted. After all we are a Democratic Society. Tina If in fact it is a democratic board shouldn't all points of view be heard?
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 3, 2005 8:20:22 GMT -5
I think that it is great that the bans have all been lifted. After all we are a Democratic Society. Tina If in fact it is a democratic board shouldn't all points of view be heard? This is an anti board, so you half to remember that. If you're going to debate death penalty issues, you may do so in the debate area. If you're disrespectful to the anti's, pro's or the dr inmates who are our family/friends, your posts will be deleted or modified, of course. I'm sure you're aware of all of that, but this is your reminder in this wonderful anti democracy of CCADP.
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Post by ela on Aug 3, 2005 12:08:24 GMT -5
My best wishes Tracy for this decision.... my best wishes... I only hope that all this won't run against you and your work. And well.. about democracy and freedom... Those expect mutual respect. We had enough proof that it doesn't work on here. And again... freedom STOPS where it hurts someone else's freedom... so, yes, I am free to talk about whatever, I am free to express my opinions at my best, but also, I MUST stop where and when what i say hurts someone else.
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Post by freerob on Aug 3, 2005 12:34:28 GMT -5
My best wishes Tracy for this decision.... my best wishes... I only hope that all this won't run against you and your work. And well.. about democracy and freedom... Those expect mutual respect. We had enough proof that it doesn't work on here. And again... freedom STOPS where it hurts someone else's freedom... so, yes, I am free to talk about whatever, I am free to express my opinions at my best, but also, I MUST stop where and when what i say hurts someone else. Ela is 100% correct. Altho 'banning' can be frowned upon, it depends on the individual issue/forum. Tracy will not allow these extremists to run havac here.... WATCH AND SEE!
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Post by iknowcrazylady on Aug 3, 2005 13:21:11 GMT -5
If in fact it is a democratic board shouldn't all points of view be heard? This is an anti board, so you half to remember that. If you're going to debate death penalty issues, you may do so in the debate area. If you're disrespectful to the anti's, pro's or the dr inmates who are our family/friends, your posts will be deleted or modified, of course. I'm sure you're aware of all of that, but this is your reminder in this wonderful anti democracy of CCADP. that didn't sound very democratic. antidemocratic indeed
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