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Post by miles on Aug 14, 2005 14:17:26 GMT -5
I'm not gonna get into this, but suffice to say my son is livin a LWOP in FL since the age of 15. His case was NATIONAL exposure and trust me, I believe the media like I believe Elton John is straight! Elton Johns not straight? <g> Sorry to hear that, hope all goes well for you and your son. Do you believe your son is innocent or guilty however? Please don't be disrespectful to my son. Lasty to your question, none of your business
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Post by thebutcher on Aug 14, 2005 14:21:20 GMT -5
LOL ok circumstencial BEHAVIOR ........ please my friend read the transcript of the case and we will debate after......... until then see ya...... I have read it, many times. Maybe you should take your own advice and do the same. OK you said 1- SP told family that he went golfing?? WRONG 2- brand new boat?? WRONG AGAIN 3-SP and Ron always fishing together??? WRONG AGAIN 4- YOU tell me to read books on that case? NO I don t do that, its all bull**** instead read TRANSCRIPT........ see, you think you KNOW the case because you read books from the case, I repeat please read TRIAL transcipt instead because it is obious YOU did NOT read the trial trasnscipt ( see answer 1-2-3-) Just seee your last post to Myles and I really think you do NOT respect peoples and you are a baiter,,,,CLICK
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:03:02 GMT -5
What do you mean nothing points to him? A) His wifes body found same place he went fishing (90 miles from his house) B) Witnesses saw him carrying out large "umbrellas" that morning. C) HE STILL CONTINUED to swoon Amber AFTER his wife was missing. D) He told Amber when he met her and before his wife went missing that this would be the first holiday without his wife. Need I go on? shadez, I believe he's guilty also, but the thing is, all that doesn't prove he's guilty.....but it makes us suspicious of him. him being a dog and having an affair doesn't make him guilty of murder. many man have affairs. doesn't make them murderers. Large umbrellas? my mother carries large umbrellas when fishing, having cook outs, etc.....plus large lounge chairs in canvas bags, etc...... The bodies found in the same fishing area? well, that's the kicker.....I can't defend him on that part. I can't defend him. But I will say this, the more of the transcripts, the more I see the defense makes a good case. But just because someone is in the same area as the crime, doesn't make them guilty of it......I'm very suspicious, believe Scott is guilty.....but..... of course this case doesn't compare to Scotts, but here's an example of someone in the same area of the crime, convicted, but innocent. www.1prison.com/derricksstory.htmlThe Innocent Project in Houston is looking at Derrick's case thank God! I know there are DP cases where the person convicted was in the same area, convicted and later found innocent. I can't think of any off hand to post. I've got other things to do today, so that won't be in my agenda, however, whenever I come across the sources, I'll post them. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:04:50 GMT -5
What do you mean nothing points to him? A) His wifes body found same place he went fishing (90 miles from his house) B) Witnesses saw him carrying out large "umbrellas" that morning. C) HE STILL CONTINUED to swoon Amber AFTER his wife was missing. D) He told Amber when he met her and before his wife went missing that this would be the first holiday without his wife. Need I go on? Hello folks this is my 1 st post and want to say Hi to everyone I want to respond to this particular post..... A- Body was not found at the same place, it was found NEAR.......and the whole world KNEW at the end of december that SP went fishing in this area..... B-SP told the detective that he want to carrie the umbrellas to the wharehouse..... C- Yess and SO what??? ( behavior again) D- He NEVER tell Amber that his wife was missing, he said; I lost my wife, and said ; there is different kind of lost........and when you have a fling ( sex), you will say anything to the mistress, EVEN lies......( how about the other man who was dating Amber and told her; my wife is dead? and in fact she was not) with A-B-C-D, is this the evidence and the proof that he did it? ? Bottom line, IMO A-B-C- and D, does NOT prove murder at all............ let me adress this..... 1- where is the evidence that a murder happen at the house or near the house? 2- where is the blood, or forensic in the house? 3- in the truck? 4-in the toolbox? ( buawwww) 5- in the wharehouse? 6- In the boat? 7-who was on the computer that morning? 8-Dump a body in broad daylight? 9-Dump a body from a small 14 foot boat? 10-Why the burglars told the LE that they did it the 26th when we all know it happen the 24th? I don't believe the murder happened at Scott's house. If he did murder Laci, I think he was smarter than to murder her at their house.
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:07:58 GMT -5
Wrong. The important thing is that SP told police officer he was fishing, right from the get go. People may have misunderstood *going all day* *golfing all day* but once again, he did NOT lied to the police officer.......( BTW is this the same person who said he was golfing that he testifies that there was NO lid on the BBQ) prove wrong on a tape........ for the clairvoyant thing, if you read my post before, ANOTHER Amber fu**friend told Amber that his wife was DEAD............ and as far for *lost my wife* and *different kind of lost* there is all kind of lost............ and yess he told Amber that he know what happen, BUT once again, he was talking about the burglar across the street.......... and you talk about his behavior, it means you convict him WITHOUT evidence and because of his behavior??? okidoo, NOT me....... I ask again can you please OPEN MY EYES and answer my 10 questions please? thanks.... Very easy to answer, I fish on a 12 foot boat and I catch and release. Standing in the center of a boat and balancing yer weight you can throw anything overboard. You don't NEED physical evidence in any case, no one said she was murdered in the car, boat or house. He lied to many times and was caught about crucial things to be innocent. Sorry, Shadez, I don't mean to sound like I'm picking on you. You know I think Scott is guilty. I do know more than one person who are chronic liars, who lie about things they don't need to lie about, but they do anyway. This doesn't make them a murderer. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:10:04 GMT -5
Very easy to answer, I fish on a 12 foot boat and I catch and release. Standing in the center of a boat and balancing yer weight you can throw anything overboard. You don't NEED physical evidence in any case, no one said she was murdered in the car, boat or house. He lied to many times and was caught about crucial things to be innocent. OK you can dump a 154 pounds body from the boat with 150 pounds of *suppose* anchors WITHOUT capsizing? send me the tape when you ll try it..... Physical evidence is everywhere when you kill someone, it that case there is NONE' NADA' NOTHING' ZLICH...... how come??? Not necessarily. Not the way I think he killed her. But I've gotta read the entire transcript to make an educated guess on how he killed her or if he did prior to saying it, however, I doubt I'll post this for everyone to see. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:11:43 GMT -5
Guess you never fished for large game. If you stand in a boat, it could be as small as 6 feet, and spread your legs to each side of the boat and stand straight up, you have perfect balance. Seeing as Scott was a "seasoned" fisherman, he would know this. And you are also forgetting something else, LACI'S family, who knew him better then us, ALSO agree he is guilty. His sister thinks he is guilty. The odds of him being in the place, regardless if it was just "close" or not, where Lacis body was found, is still 90 miles from his house. He told everyone in his family he was going golfing that day. He had a brande new boat, his father in law, ALSO went fishing that day, doesn't it seem ODD that if you just bought a brand new boat, and were going fishing on Christmas Eve, and your father in law was also, you wouldn't ask him to come? Especially when your supposed to be with him that night anyways? Jeese... my last message, he did NOT told Laci family that he went fisghing, wrong again............ I play golf and fish and my father in law luv both and I do NOT want to fish or golf with him, but going to see a hockey game with him, no problem....... again you should read the transcript because he NEVER told Laci family that he went golfing.........it was NOT a brand new boat....ect I want to see EVIDENCE NOT speculation......geeeezzzz a man is on death row for his behavior and speculation, once again, where is the evidence??? not speculation.... thanks and have a good day.... Excellent point
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:12:39 GMT -5
dear god, when will this ever end... LMAO! It will never end Miles!!!!! huggggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:15:44 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly Tracy, Scott needs a voice but so do 999 other men around the world on Death Row. Just because SP was a high profile case, let's not forget our other friends. Quite honestly, the SP situation is doing him no good whatsoever. Like I said, back and forth etc. As a rabid activist against DP, even I'm tired of the media bullsh*t. Goodness knows what Scott thinks. It will not help him at all. Didn't before. They say any publicity is good publicity... errrr. I beg to differ. Miles By you saying that he deserves a voice is in a sense asking us that believe he is guilty to say, ok, people convicted of murdering their wife and unborn baby deserve a right to speak out. That is what appeals are for, and in a sense, censorship. He was convicted by the media and the general public by HIS OWN actions. Then, by a jury. Let me ask this, say somehow, you found out right now, that he was guilty without question, would you still feel he deserves the rights to an open forum? I do not necessarily agree with the death penalty and actually at times feel bad that he is there. I can imagine how hard it was for him to adjust to an enviorenment that he is now. Mark Geragos screwed up, bottom line. He would have been better off with a public defender in my opinion. I feel bad for his parents and all involved, as Sharon Rocha stated, their were no winners. But I am sure, if it was anyone of our spouses, and we were innocent, we would not stand idly by while the press persecuted us. He did not portray ANYTHING CLOSE to someone who was concerned about finding his wife. It's beyond the realm of reasoning why he acted like he did. We post for all inmates reguardless of guilt or innocense. We are anti-dp all the way around. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by sclcookie on Aug 14, 2005 15:18:13 GMT -5
The media is not always out to hang. Alot of times they are for the defendent. The defendents actions basically determine how the media will react. LMAO! Have you seen any of Nancy Grace's shows? If you have, then you know better. If you haven't then take a look at her on CNN, then I bet you may change your view on that. hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by shadez on Aug 14, 2005 17:02:54 GMT -5
Elton Johns not straight? <g> Sorry to hear that, hope all goes well for you and your son. Do you believe your son is innocent or guilty however? Please don't be disrespectful to my son. Lasty to your question, none of your business First of all nothing at all was disrespectful to your son in that post, I asked you a simple question. And I find it kind ill-stricken that you would assume that. And you jumping to conclusions answered my question.
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Post by shadez on Aug 14, 2005 17:07:22 GMT -5
The media is not always out to hang. Alot of times they are for the defendent. The defendents actions basically determine how the media will react. LMAO! Have you seen any of Nancy Grace's shows? If you have, then you know better. If you haven't then take a look at her on CNN, then I bet you may change your view on that. hugggz, Suzanne Suz, I will agree with that. Nancy does seem to hang everyone and I personally hate her. But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to put 2 and 2 together. Butcher as for yer remarks, does whoever you said moves large umbrellas do it same day their wife shows up missing on Christmas Eve?
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Post by jayden24 on Aug 14, 2005 22:47:10 GMT -5
Nancy is the picture I have of all prosecutors now. (Isn't that awful) Someone willing to sell their soul just to get a conviction on YOU! Sometimes they're right they've got the guilty party, no question about that. But when they're not, they still fight with everything they have to make a bad conviction stick to the wrong person. It disgusts me!
Admittedly my generlized view of prosecutors isn't fair. But the generalized view of people on death row isn't fair either.
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Post by shadez on Aug 15, 2005 12:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by smoke52020 on Sept 12, 2005 19:34:05 GMT -5
Nancy is the picture I have of all prosecutors now. (Isn't that awful) Someone willing to sell their soul just to get a conviction on YOU! Sometimes they're right they've got the guilty party, no question about that. But when they're not, they still fight with everything they have to make a bad conviction stick to the wrong person. It disgusts me! Admittedly my generlized view of prosecutors isn't fair. But the generalized view of people on death row isn't fair either. Nancy Grace is a man-hater. Her boyfriend was killed many many years ago and now she hates all men and instantly assumes they are guilty. I found myself muting her during the Peterson trial.
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