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Post by happyhaddock on Nov 3, 2008 21:33:38 GMT -5
Revenge helps no one. Prevention helps us all.
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Post by ♥Eva♥ on Nov 3, 2008 23:39:07 GMT -5
Revenge helps no one. Prevention helps us all. True! Revenge helps no one! Revenge would be having the murderers of Lynette and the other victims suffer the same humilation, terror, torture, mutilation and painful, horrifying death that Lynette and their other victims suffered!
A message must be sent to those capable of such evil murders that they will face the harshest penalty that the law allows-the DP- if they carry out their murderous desires!
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Post by happyhaddock on Nov 4, 2008 2:40:49 GMT -5
Revenge helps no one. Prevention helps us all. True! Revenge helps no one! Revenge would be having the murderers of Lynette and the other victims suffer the same humilation, terror, torture, mutilation and painful, horrifying death that Lynette and their other victims suffered! A message must be sent to those capable of such evil murders that they will face the harshest penalty that the law allows-the DP- if they carry out their murderous desires! Can you guarantee that if you execute these two there will never be another murder in the USA? Ever? How can you make such a claim?
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Post by pumpkinpie on Nov 4, 2008 16:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by ♥Eva♥ on Nov 4, 2008 19:13:28 GMT -5
Revenge helps no one. Prevention helps us all. True! Revenge helps no one! Revenge would be having the murderers of Lynette and the other victims suffer the same humilation, terror, torture, mutilation and painful, horrifying death that Lynette and their other victims suffered! A message must be sent to those capable of such evil murders that they will face the harshest penalty that the law allows-the DP- if they carry out their murderous desires! Can you guarantee that if you execute these two there will never be another murder in the USA? Ever? How can you make such a claim? Deterrence is not prevention! If only a dozen potential killers out of a 100 decide against committing murder for sadistic lusts because they feel the DP is too great a risk to run than it should be our duty to support capital punishment!
You confuse me! You support the DP for "political criminals" and "terrorists", but oppose the DP if no political agenda is involved! I'm baffled! These "murder mac terrorists" were interested in promoting pure evil! Potential evil thrill seekers should be much easier to deter with the DP than potential political criminals or suicidal ideological terrorists!
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Post by biglinmarshall on Nov 4, 2008 23:15:36 GMT -5
It's simply NOT true to claim that the death penalty, and ONLY the death penalty, is an act of revenge.
You can't claim that execution is UNIQUELY an act of revenge.
Either ALL punishment of crime is an act of revenge or none.
If you oppose the DP because you think it's revenge you should ALSO oppose imprisonment, probation, fines, etc.
Otherwise you're being hypocritical.
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Post by happyhaddock on Nov 5, 2008 4:02:58 GMT -5
It's simply NOT true to claim that the death penalty, and ONLY the death penalty, is an act of revenge. You can't claim that execution is UNIQUELY an act of revenge. Either ALL punishment of crime is an act of revenge or none. If you oppose the DP because you think it's revenge you should ALSO oppose imprisonment, probation, fines, etc. Otherwise you're being hypocritical. Your argument is without merit. Execution is clearly unique since no possibility exists to adequately compensate those wrongfully punished. If death is the punishment for murder, what is the punishment for vehicular homicide while intoxicated?
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Post by pumpkinpie on Nov 5, 2008 9:54:09 GMT -5
It's simply NOT true to claim that the death penalty, and ONLY the death penalty, is an act of revenge. You can't claim that execution is UNIQUELY an act of revenge. Either ALL punishment of crime is an act of revenge or none. If you oppose the DP because you think it's revenge you should ALSO oppose imprisonment, probation, fines, etc. Otherwise you're being hypocritical. Are you kidding me? Execution is an act of revenge because it's murder. You cannot compare that to a rightfully deserved prison sentence. That executed inmate will have family that suffers because of this execution, friends who suffer, just like the victims family suffered. It just creates more death and suffering. It's not punishment. It is revenge to all involved. Prison is punishment. There's no additonal need to kill more humans.
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Post by pumpkinpie on Nov 5, 2008 9:58:35 GMT -5
On that note, I'm reminding everyone that this is not a debate area. It's a memorial thread for the victims of tragedy. Let's not ruin that.
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Post by biglinmarshall on Nov 7, 2008 11:20:01 GMT -5
On that note, I'm reminding everyone that this is not a debate area. It's a memorial thread for the victims of tragedy. Let's not ruin that. Then maybe you should tell the other posters who are deliberately trying to turn it into that. I want to reply to the dishonest nonsense being put forward but perhaps I'd better start a new thread because as a victim of murder myself the last thing I want to do is upset an MVS.
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