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Post by tinachurch on May 21, 2005 20:36:20 GMT -5
To set the record straight--I recognize and work for "THE OTHER VICTIMS". Every prosecutor in this country has a Victim's Advocate, but please tell me who is there for the OTHER VICTIMS? The Prosecutor decides who is a victim. How many unsolved murders are there? Many times THEY KNOW WHO the perpetrator is, however for whatever reason they decide not to charge due to "lack of evidence".
Many times these cases can be sent to the Grand Jury but a prosecuting attorney but some will refuse to do so, due to the same "lack of evidence". The truth of the matter is why not send it to the Grand Jury and let them decide and make the prosecutors prove their case. But in many cases the loved ones are turned away by the very system in place to protect them and become the OTHER VICTIM.
I work for all OTHER VICTIMS, but will not work on any case that will end up as a death penalty case. WHY? Because, it creates a whole new set of victims!
I hope that answers any questions.
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Post by jojo29 on May 21, 2005 23:09:09 GMT -5
It makes me sick to see anyone attacking Tina. What she has done and keeps doing is one of the most wonderful things I have ever seen. She is a wonderful woman and I for one only wish there were more Tina's in the world. As far as I am concerned anyone who attacks her should get off their high horse and get in the trenches and dig. If you don't agree with something someone says or does that is fine but to attack this woman and her body of work when it has done so much good is wrong. Just my two cents
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Post by Missyme on May 21, 2005 23:11:55 GMT -5
It makes me sick to see anyone attacking Tina. What she has done and keeps doing is one of the most wonderful things I have ever seen. She is a wonderful woman and I for one only wish there were more Tina's in the world. As far as I am concerned anyone who attacks her should get off their high horse and get in the trenches and dig. If you don't agree with something someone says or does that is fine but to attack this woman and her body of work when it has done so much good is wrong. Just my two cents If you are implying I was attacking, deary, I was not. Take the time and read, I was asking a question. Not attacking.
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Post by sclcookie on May 22, 2005 0:35:43 GMT -5
sounded like an attack to me....if she had to defend herself, it was an attack no matter how tactful you may have put it hugggz, Suzanne
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Post by Missyme on May 22, 2005 1:01:08 GMT -5
sounded like an attack to me....if she had to defend herself, it was an attack no matter how tactful you may have put it hugggz, Suzanne She didnt have to defend herself from anything. She chose to post that.
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Post by sclcookie on May 22, 2005 2:39:46 GMT -5
it was an attack
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Post by Missyme on May 22, 2005 2:58:22 GMT -5
You see it your way, I'll see it mine. It was not. I was trying to understand and yes I was a little insulted at first. Now that I know, I understand what was being said.
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Post by jojo29 on May 22, 2005 13:07:10 GMT -5
It was not an attack on anybody, just a statement in general. I honestly did not mean to offend anyone or single anyone out personally. Just that Tina does a wonderful thing and it bothers me when people attack the good anybody does in this world. That is all I was trying to get across. I am very sorry if anyone thought it was an attack on them personally.
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Post by angel on May 22, 2005 13:16:59 GMT -5
Tina is a wonderful, wonderful Christian woman. She helped Michael, and he is alive today, thanks to hers and many others efforts. I honestly do not know how she does all that she does, but I know without a doubt that she has God in her life. She is a blessing to all of us!!! God bless you Tina, for all that you are, and all you have done on behalf of those on death row, and their families.
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Post by angelang38 on May 22, 2005 15:33:09 GMT -5
HAS ANYONE GIVEN THOUGHT AS TO WHAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND THAT PRISONER CAME FROM!IE WAS IT HAPPY,WERE THEY ABUSED!DID THEY COME FROM A POOR FAMILY!COULD BE A NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF ISSUES MY PERSONAL VIEW IS BEFORE THE JURY CONSIDER THE DEATH PENALTY THEY SHOULD REVIEW ALL ISSUES BECAUSE MY PERSONAL VIEW IS EVERYBODY DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE IN LIFE!PRISONERS WHO SIT ON DEATH ROW FOR UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 22 YEARS ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE 1ST CONVICTED PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW CAN CHANGE
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Post by Falcon66 on May 22, 2005 16:35:56 GMT -5
They are not victims of murder. It was an execution. That is a state-sponsored homocide. It is not a murder. I will admit I am not interested in deterence. I am interested in justice. Crimes may be done against individuals or companies, but the state is who brings charges, who carries out sentences in the name of the people in that state. seems to me like you have of an ineterest in revenge than justice
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Post by mikebook on May 22, 2005 19:46:12 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between justice and revenge. Revenge is what a person takes in anger and hatrid. Justice is what the state does. Cold and dispassionate.
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Post by sclcookie on May 22, 2005 20:24:48 GMT -5
Mike,
It's revenge to kill someone for killing someone. If I was to kill someone for killing someone I loved, I'd go to prison and possibly get the death penalty, however, this death penalty is not seen as revenge? What's the difference if I do it or if the legal system does it?
You may doctor it up with legalities, but they're still killing someone for killing someone.
Suzanne
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Post by mikebook on May 22, 2005 20:29:15 GMT -5
I do not look at it that way. Revenge is a dish best served cold may be a Klingon proverb, but it is not what is needed in a society that has laws and courts. Laws and courts are about justice, not revenge.
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Post by jojo29 on May 22, 2005 20:40:29 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between justice and revenge. Revenge is what a person takes in anger and hatrid. Justice is what the state does. Cold and dispassionate. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the state work for the people. Isn't that why it is always said "The people of the state of ____ against _____". So isn't it people getting revenge and isn't that wrong?
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