Dearest Briseis! Actually i couldn't care less about pc's utterances and it's really a tragedy that a heinous murderer has such a support group!
One of the biggest "politically correct lies" of this modern era is the big lie that the death penalty isn't a deterrent and doesn't deter the type of murders that it's applied to! In this case a horrific rape, torture murder! The deterrent effect of the death penalty is the one fact that antis must deny or be marginalized!
The only value pc has now is to serve as a deterring message to anyone at large contemplating such a horrible murder! No we can't bring Jennifer and Elizabeth back physically, but with a decisive and uncompromising example we make of their killer we really do send a message that reduces such murderous attacks!
Being that this is an anti-death penalty site, we obviously don't support the execution of ANY murderer. Supporting someone's right to life does not mean to support their murderous actions- so get it straight..... In the other section, Banshee CHOSE to start a thread about HER pen-pal! And that was her choice. On this site, in that section, she HAS that right, without getting abuse, or attacks from others! It doesn't matter who that pen-pal is, whether it's Peter Cantu or John Couey himself, people have the right to post about their pen-pals in that section without abusive attacks.
And I'm sure this case will really stop people from joining gangs and committing brutal crimes in the future. The death penalty is NOT a deterrant. Executing these guys will never stop any brutal attack from happening again in the future, EVER>.
It's a free country and people can write to whoever they want, including Satan himself!
I do like Germany's method of not publishing the last names of murderers. By censoring the legal name prison pen paling is greatly reduced and the murderer's family can remain anonymous.
Re: Peter Cantu loses his appeal « Reply #16 on Sept 17, 2009, 9:51am »
Regardless of who qualifies for the Death Penalty, (and I'd be interested in where you got this 1% source as it sounds particularly random) this has no relevance whatsoever to the DP as a deterrent.
And cold weather is a deterrent to crime? And I am to 'ask any police officer' as proof of this? Well! That's me told! Lets be realistic. Cold weather deters TYPES of crime, BUT it sparks other types of crime. More people stay indoors in cold weather, correct? Well, as you have suggested, lets allow Washington County Sheriff Sgt. John Underwood to explain -
"In cold weather, we see an increase in domestic violence calls. Seems like people get cabin fever after being locked up in the house for a long period of time. They get a little cooped up and we see them get at each others throats."
So, while I agree that cold weather deters some crime, it does spark other types of crime.
Now, back to the DP as a deterrent ... Is there any evidence whatsoever to prove this? As yet I have seen none. The ONLY way to determine whether the DP is a deterrent to crime or not is by looking at statistics, which while not being foolproof, are nonetheless accurate and valuable. I have seen the statistics and I am seeing evidence only to the contrary, that the DP does not serve as a deterrent.
"Government ... can’t be trusted to control it's own bureaucrats or collect taxes equitably or fill a pothole, much less decide which of it's citizens to kill."
Regardless of who qualifies for the Death Penalty, (and I'd be interested in where you got this 1% source as it sounds particularly random) this has no relevance whatsoever to the DP as a deterrent.
And cold weather is a deterrent to crime? And I am to 'ask any police officer' as proof of this? Well! That's me told! Lets be realistic. Cold weather deters TYPES of crime, BUT it sparks other types of crime. More people stay indoors in cold weather, correct? Well, as you have suggested, lets allow Washington County Sheriff Sgt. John Underwood to explain -
"In cold weather, we see an increase in domestic violence calls. Seems like people get cabin fever after being locked up in the house for a long period of time. They get a little cooped up and we see them get at each others throats."
So, while I agree that cold weather deters some crime, it does spark other types of crime.
Now, back to the DP as a deterrent ... Is there any evidence whatsoever to prove this? As yet I have seen none. The ONLY way to determine whether the DP is a deterrent to crime or not is by looking at statistics, which while not being foolproof, are nonetheless accurate and valuable. I have seen the statistics and I am seeing evidence only to the contrary, that the DP does not serve as a deterrent.
The deterrence debate is conducted largely on this thread. Feel free to respond to any posts there! http://ccadp.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=debate&action=display&thread=6951 My previous incarnations on this site ended with the Cyber DP, but i suppose you can guess which posts were mine on that thread.
Re: Peter Cantu loses his appeal « Reply #18 on Nov 1, 2009, 12:28am »
Peter is where he is solely because of Peter.
Although I favor the death penalty, especially for this piece of trash, I respect the position that humans should not kill other humans. But when it comes to child murderers I favor the maximum punishment.
Plus I live in a city where a pregnant women was murdered by a former death row inmate who had his sentence commuted to life, beat the system and was paroled, and started killing right away again. Had he originally been executed as planned the first time, that certainly would have acted as a deterant against his future crimes.
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The death penalty is NOT a deterrant. Executing these guys will never stop any brutal attack from happening again in the future, EVER>. 
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Lets be realistic. Cold weather deters TYPES of crime, BUT it sparks other types of crime. More people stay indoors in cold weather, correct? Well, as you have suggested, lets allow Washington County Sheriff Sgt. John Underwood to explain - 